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Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds


From: Dave Taht <dave.taht () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 13:11:09 -0500

On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 12:46 PM Shane Ronan <shane () ronan-online com> wrote:

If you want money from the government to subsidize your network, you'll follow their rules...

It is the misguided focus on too many too simple things from the
regulator and Congress, without even understanding what a packet is,
and enormous subsidies for things that don't matter, and great
mis-understanding of the things that do, that bothers me the most.

Anyway, for 14 years, I have been trying to get bufferbloat fixed,
universally, and great progress is being made. I felt that with one
political push like this, it might begin to turn the tide. We are
accepting signatures on the FCC filing until 2PM EST today.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit

On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 12:39 PM Tom Mitchell <tmitchell () netelastic com> wrote:

Not sure we need the FCC telling us how to build products or run networks.  Seat belts are life-or-death, but 
bufferbloat is rarely fatal ;-)  Let it be a point of differentiation.

-- Tom


On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 4:56 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht () gmail com> wrote:

Over here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit

Us bufferbloat folk have been putting together a response to the FCC's
NOI (notice of inquiry) asking for feedback as to increasing the
broadband speeds beyond 100/20 Mbit.

"Calls for further bandwidth increases are analogous to calling for
cars to have top speeds of 100, 200, or 500 miles per hour. Without
calling also for better airbags, bumpers, brakes, or steering wheels,
(or roads designed to minimize travel delay), these initiatives will
fail (and are failing) to meet the needs of present and future users
of the internet."

Comments (and cites) welcomed also! The text is still somewhat in flux...


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Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos



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Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos


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