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Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra () baylink com>
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:42:25 -0500
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 05:06:00PM -0800, Bill Nash wrote:
I find this to be entertaining, since as a VOIP consumer, I'm reimbursing my ISP for the cost of the traffic as part of my monthly tithe. Why exactly are networks taking this stance to QoS VOIP traffic, generated by their customers, into uselessness?
Oh, c'mon, Bill; you *know* why. :-) This goes back to when I ran a Teeny Tiny<tm> ISP in '95 on a 256K DSL link and 40 modems, and got massacred by iPhone: The carriers based their provisioning, and thus pricing, on a traffic engineering model that was reasonable *until the Big New Application became a runaway hit*. You're not paying (at least at the lower levels of the food chain) for what you *could* utilize, you're paying for what you're likely to utilize, *given what the people who set the pricing knew at the time*. Pricing depends on oversubscription; safe oversubscription depends on having a pretty decent handle on the traffic patterns, at the macro level. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra () baylink com Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates The Things I Think '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 If you can read this... thank a system administrator. Or two. --me
Current thread:
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Michael . Dillon (Apr 01)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Stephen Sprunk (Apr 01)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Bill Nash (Apr 01)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Adi Linden (Apr 01)
- RE: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Alexander Kiwerski (Apr 01)
- RE: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Alex Bligh (Apr 01)
- RE: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Owen DeLong (Apr 01)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Stephen Sprunk (Apr 01)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Stephen Sprunk (Apr 01)
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- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Jay R. Ashworth (Apr 01)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Jay R. Ashworth (Apr 01)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance David Barak (Apr 01)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Kevin Oberman (Apr 01)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Kevin Oberman (Apr 01)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Owen DeLong (Apr 01)
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- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Jay R. Ashworth (Apr 03)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Kevin Oberman (Apr 01)