Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls?

[Gadi Evron <ge () egotistical reprehensible net>]

 > When you drive a car, your actions are different driving normally and
> running over people on the sidewalk.  The "worst" thing a home user 
can do
> is execute a virus or trojan- and the interface presents that in
> essentially the same way as non-active content- that's not really an
> end-user problem.  Take the execute bit off the place where attachments
> normally get saved, and you'd remove a huge percentage of the problems.
> We at some point must come to the place where "breaking" 2% of
> functionality to save 98% of users is worth doing.
>

Okay, I didn't intend this as more than a joke, but it evolved to 
something different.

A user that runs an un-protected machine, or anyone for that matter, can 
be used to DDoS, spam, bounce hackers, commit frauds, etc.

Who should be held liable for actions committed from that machine? Is 
this "the Trojan horse defense" again?

> No, it'd just make a legal mess where a single malicious bad actor could
> bring down an ISP.

Well than, speaking in the philosophical level, why shouldn't an ISP 
that allows its users to commit crimes not be "put down" ?

I exaggerate in this email, please take what I say in context.

        Gadi Evron

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