Could I use Java or c#? [was: Re: re-writing college books]

[michaelslists at gmail.com (mikeiscool)]

On 11/8/06, SZALAY Attila <sasa at pheniscidae.tvnetwork.hu> wrote:
> Hi All!
>
> On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 23:23 +1100, mikeiscool wrote:
> > Hold the phone ... What debugging problems? What _specific_ speed
> > issues? I'd be really surprised if your project couldn't be resolved
> > with java; what specific problems are you facing? What tests have you
> > run/consider to show that java's supposed "speed issues" will give you
> > trouble? If it's just xml processing I'd say efficient data structures
> > are what you care about, so java can help you there.
>
> 1. Debug
>
> When the program do something nasty or unwanted thing then in C I could
> do a lot of thing to find what happened.
>
> For example I could make the program dropping a core and analyze it at
> home. This needed because the program used some places where I cannot go
> into. And there were bugs in program which is definitely a race
> condition what is hard to reproduce. So it's not enough to write the
> steps to reproduce the bug.
>
> And I'm not sure that I can get the complete state of the program (and
> just the program) so I can detect where is the problem, even when the
> problem is in the compiler. I think it's more harder in java language.

You can definately get appropriate information via the stack trace
with java's exception handling. It's strange to see you say debugging
is _eaiser_ in c, typically people find it far easier in a managed
language :)


> 2. Speed
>
> Yes, it's maybe an outdated information but for example if there are a
> java plugin in my web browser (not javascript, java, for example the
> terminal plugin in some management page of AMD64 servers) or the
> ``famous'' Hungarian social web page iWIW, which was programmed in JAVA
> and was slow like Hell.

That's a java applet; please don't judge Java the language based on
applets; they are a really bad representation. Serverside java will be
very effective and useful; what sort of client are you writing? Is it
a website or a desktop app? Even if it's a desktop app, perhaps look
to azureus to see a good, well running app written in java for the
desktop. There are others.

-- mic