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RE: University plan
From: "Jalal Atik" <jatik () atikmaroc com>
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:54:17 -0000
My personal thoughts : I truly believe that the theory aspect of Computer Science is the only way to understand the tenants of computer science. A person with a good understanding and good grasp of computer science theory will decisively figure out any matter related to computer. It will depends of course on the concentration of the major. But, in general, in Computer Science, you have all the options to pick between hardware and Software theory. An experienced person with no good grasp of the theory aspect will most likely resolve or figure out an issue based on similarities.. or guesses but a person with a pure understanding of the theory will not only resolve the issue if he puts his mind into it.. and will excel in resolving it . Yet, the experience help to wrap up issues quickly.. I would start with the theory for sure... to have a great vision of CS. At that time, no matter what the application or what Operating System it will be all the same . It is just a bit different but you deal with the same concept I once help a CISCO certified fella just by asking questions and hearing the answers I had the knowledge he had the experience and the hand on I was over the phone.. I did not need to be there I could see everything though my mind It is great Like computer languages, because the concepts are all the same, I can program with any language . I just need one week to learn the instructions and framework of the language library If you are experience with one language then the other programming language will be slightly difficult to pick up You will need time but once you understand that for instance the concept of object oriented programming.. it does not matter with prog. Language you use to achieve your goal Look for a university/college that has high reputation in Computer Science but theory is the key if your inclination is toward experience or practicality then my humble advise forget university/college go for Microsoft certification, Cisco , Checkpoint, CISSP . I hope this will help. Good Luck. Thanks Jalal Atik -----Message d'origine----- De : listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] De la part de Alexander Chayka Envoyé : samedi 18 septembre 2010 00:44 À : kalgecin Cc : PenTest list Objet : Re: University plan My recommendation: Find a good 4 year undergraduate school, they'll drill you harder. You'll want to go for Computer Science or similar which should be in the engineering field. Make sure it is ABET a credited. Make sure they have a *nix lab for the CS students and they use it for homeworks and projects in CS courses. My school was the above and did not teach Security at an undergraduate level. You had to go for your Masters to do that. I'm sure a good amount if not all schools are like that. My school did have one or two undergrad classes in security, but I never got the chance. I would keep away from the for-profit schools that advertise (eg DeVry, U of Phoenix, anything online). I've talked to some upcoming graduates from DeVrys Bachelor program and they don't seem anyplace near par on their understanding. But I'm probably biased on this (a google search may help here) Once you understand the basic and fundamental theories (some people may label some of these as "the boring stuff"), then the practical stuff in any situation can be mastered and the more advanced ("fun") stuff will come easier. On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:32 AM, kalgecin <kalgecin () gmail com> wrote:
hey guys, I'm in my final year of high school and I'm planning to go to university. As all people, I have trouble finding the right one ( or a good one ). So I'm asking you people to recommend any nice universities that teach good computer security, that is more practical than theoretical. Please also tell me to which university you attended and how was it? and any other general advice -- Kalgecin http://code.google.com/p/kalgecin http://kalgecin.110mb.com http://kalgecin.110mb.com/forums http://kalgecin.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This list is sponsored by: Information Assurance Certification Review
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