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Re: proposed pen-test
From: Eric Milam <emilam () coretechsg com>
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:44:43 -0800
I don't know if someone already pointed this out, but you are dealing with enticement versus entrapment. What you have described is entrapment, because as you state you are offering "rewards" for the behavior. You are working hard to induce the behavior. If you sent out an e-mail with a link to the new "University Social Site" that would be fine, everything else from the Social Networking site is copyright I am sure and you would need expressed permission from them to use. (Just look at the bottom of their homepage I am sure you will see the CR) If you do this, you guys could be in big trouble. Send them the USB key with a note that says its free, but not to use on school property is a better test. Because you are flushing out the true people who would do something like that no matter what. Those are who you really want to catch. (Because users don't think they'll get caught for something like that.) Either way talk to your legal department before doing anything. My words are opinion, not recommendation. Best of Luck, Eric On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 11:03 -0800, John Grimes wrote:
Hi-- A consultant firm has recommended to my university's IT department that we run the following pen-test: We send, through regular mail, a letter to members of the staff and faculty, that appears to come from a well-known social networking site, that is, it uses a facsimile of the actual letterhead and envelope of the site, including the correct return address. In this letter, we invite the recipient to beta-test a new version of the social networking site by using the program on the enclosed usb stick. We offer a gift card to a major online retailer as further inducement. If any staff member plugs in the usb stick, they will be told in a pop-up window that they have been duped, and the fact will be logged to a server at the university. It seems to us that there are two potential legal problems here: impersonating the social networking site, and using the US postal service for a fraudulent, if well-intentioned, purpose. Can anyone here comment on this? Beyond the legalities, does this seem like an effective and worthwhile test? Thanks for any insight. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This list is sponsored by: Information Assurance Certification Review Board Prove to peers and potential employers without a doubt that you can actually do a proper penetration test. IACRB CPT and CEPT certs require a full practical examination in order to become certified. http://www.iacertification.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Re: proposed pen-test Terry Cutler (Mar 08)
- Re: proposed pen-test Shohn Trojacek (Mar 08)
- RE: proposed pen-test Gorgon Beast (Mar 11)
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