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RE: proposed pen-test


From: Gorgon Beast <gorgonbeast () hotmail com>
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:24:39 -0800


Legalities aside, since I'm not a lawyer, what are you trying to prove?  This seems like a form of social engineering, 
which works very well with many companies.  If you want to prove something ins a SAS70 type of setting, tell everyone 
NOT to attach any USB stick to their computer.  Have them sign a piece of paper stating that they understand not to 
attach the USB stick and they must bring it to you.  Wait a month, then send it out and see how many you get.
 
At a security conference I attended, our Corporate office handed out USB sticks advertising the new name.  There 
weren't any files on them.  When I got up to give my presentation a couple of days later, I waited for all 450 people 
to quiet down and then I asked, "How many people have attached the USB drives to your laptops, and scanned them for 
viruses".  You could feel the fear.  I told them it was safe, I had tested mine on someone elses laptop.  ;)  
 
One more point then I'll shut up.  I would also worry about people inside your organization.  The disgruntled worker 
might bring in a box of USB drives and set them in the cafeteria with a note that says, "Free!  Take one!"  (I did this 
as part of a full Pen Test, they were all gone within an hour)
 
John Forristel
Intrusion Stop
 
 
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:03:31 -0800
Subject: proposed pen-test
From: john.k.grimes () gmail com
To: pen-test () securityfocus com

Hi--

A consultant firm has recommended to my university's IT department
that we run the following pen-test:

We send, through regular mail, a letter to members of the staff and
faculty, that appears to come from a well-known social networking
site, that is, it uses a facsimile of the actual letterhead and
envelope of the site, including the correct return address. In this
letter, we invite the recipient to beta-test a new version of the
social networking site by using the program on the enclosed usb stick.
We offer a gift card to a major online retailer as further inducement.
If any staff member plugs in the usb stick, they will be told in a
pop-up window that they have been duped, and the fact will be logged
to a server at the university.

It seems to us that there are two potential legal problems here:
impersonating the social networking site, and using the US postal
service for a fraudulent, if well-intentioned, purpose. Can anyone
here comment on this?

Beyond the legalities, does this seem like an effective and worthwhile test?

Thanks for any insight.

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