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Re: Is Pentesting Goal Oriented, or Coverage Oriented?


From: Taras <taras () securityaudit ru>
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:37:41 +0400

Hi, Daniel!

Thanks for interesting topic :)

From my point of view the aim of good pentest is to show practically as
much as possible ways to gain goal. For example we can gain access to 
some critical data, e.g. cardholder data, through the hole in web
application. Same access we can gain with help of social engineering 
and some Trojan-like program. All these ways pentester must show to the
customer.

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 21:02 -0400, Daniel Miessler wrote:
Greetings List,

I'm having a discussion with Johannes Ullrich via the SANS Application  
Security Streetfighter Blog on whether penetration testing is goal or  
coverage oriented.

Johannes's position is that a pentest that attains a goal, e.g. root  
access or a database dump, and then stops is an incomplete and poor  
pentest. He believes a good pentester should continue finding as many  
vulnerabilities as he can.

I hold the opposite view, which is that a penetration test is, by  
definition, focused on achieving a specific goal, and that if the aim  
of testing is to find as many vulnerabilities as possible the type of  
test you're performing is a vulnerability assessment.

Here are the original arguments:

Johannes: http://blogs.sans.org/appsecstreetfighter/2009/09/30/pentesting-do-you-need-coverage/
Me: http://blogs.sans.org/appsecstreetfighter/2009/10/03/response-pentesting-coverage/
My Original: http://danielmiessler.com/blog/infosec-vulnerability-assessment-vs-penetration-test

I'm curious as to what the list thinks of the two perspectives.

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Daniel R. Miessler
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E: daniel () danielmiessler com
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