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Re: Is Pentesting Goal Oriented, or Coverage Oriented?


From: Zack Payton <zpayton () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 02:27:25 -0400

Code complete, exploitation far and wide encourages fixes in many departments . Just as their defense are multilayered, so should be your attack. Card exposure on any assessment is a critical finding.

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On Oct 2, 2009, at 9:02 PM, Daniel Miessler <daniel () danielmiessler com> wrote:

Greetings List,

I'm having a discussion with Johannes Ullrich via the SANS Application Security Streetfighter Blog on whether penetration testing is goal or coverage oriented.

Johannes's position is that a pentest that attains a goal, e.g. root access or a database dump, and then stops is an incomplete and poor pentest. He believes a good pentester should continue finding as many vulnerabilities as he can.

I hold the opposite view, which is that a penetration test is, by definition, focused on achieving a specific goal, and that if the aim of testing is to find as many vulnerabilities as possible the type of test you're performing is a vulnerability assessment.

Here are the original arguments:

Johannes: http://blogs.sans.org/appsecstreetfighter/2009/09/30/pentesting-do-you-need-coverage/
Me: http://blogs.sans.org/appsecstreetfighter/2009/10/03/response-pentesting-coverage/
My Original: http://danielmiessler.com/blog/infosec-vulnerability-assessment-vs-penetration-test

I'm curious as to what the list thinks of the two perspectives.

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Daniel R. Miessler
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