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Re: Internal Penetration Testing


From: Stephen Mullins <steve.mullins.work () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:21:52 -0400

I question the validity of "internal pen testing."  After all, as an
insider you should have access to all manner of information that an
attacker would not.  If you have the skills to perform a legitimate
"black box" pen test then you should have no problem doing whatever
you want as an inside "pen tester" even if you try to play by a
predetermined set of rules wherein you pretend not to have insider
knowledge (good luck).  I guess I don't understand the purpose.  If it
is to demonstrate that having someone with a moderate to high amount
of skill "go rogue" inside your network is a "bad thing", that just
seems redundant to me.

The best use for "internal pen testing" in my opinion would be simply
to see if anyone noticed via your IDS/log management solution/etc.

If nobody is watching then an internal pen test is doubly pointless.

Steve Mullins

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:10 AM, pma111<pmaneedham () hotmail com> wrote:

Can anybody recommend any good books, or ideally free online references to
start learning the techniques of internal penetration testing? I.e. getting
onto (access to) network shares, private network drives,  internal servers,
systems, from inside the Network that someone is not authorised to do? I
wont ask for specific pointers just some good online guides so I can begin
to identify the techniques that give rise to the "threat from within" etc.

Regards,
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