Bypassing Vontu

[cmerkel at gmail.com (Chris Merkel)]

No,  wasn't being sarcastic - don't assume that the DLP box will catch
even all of the normal end user ways of exfiltrating data. Skype,
encrypted for example.

Proving all the ways DLP can fail is the easy part. The only challenge
is that you run into there is that the failure modes are near
infinate.


On 10/22/09, johnemiller at gmail.com <johnemiller at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am notoriously bad at picking up on sarcasm over email, especially
> lacking the appropriate <sarcasm> tag, but are you seriously suggesting
> tailoring the testing to only highlight the features that you know work? I
> can understand wanting to demonstrate what would get caught, but the real
> value of testing this system is to find out where the weakness exist so
> that appropriate controls can be added to reduce those risks. The testing
> methodology should be expansive enough to use as education for the idiots.
>
> On Oct 22, 2009 2:14pm, Chris Merkel <cmerkel at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I agree with Ron - DLP is an "idiot screen" and is useful for little
>
> > more. Therefore, your testing methodology should be to emulate idiots
>
> > and nothing more. (and educate any idiot who thinks it will solve your
>
> > leakage issues.)
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> > On 10/22/09, xgermx xgermx at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Create a small TrueCrypt container, copy sensitive files to container,
> > copy
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> > > container to usb or email container.
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> > >
>
> > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Brian Schultz
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> > > theconqueror at gmail.com>wrote:
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> > >
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> > > > Our security department is testing out Symantec's Vontu and I am
> > playing
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> > > > the guinea pig and have to try and get documents out of our company's
>
> > > > environment. I have a really basic understanding of how it works. It
> > has a
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> > > > span port sitting and listening to all outgoing web traffic and there
> > is
>
> > > > also an agent that sits on desktops and watches to see if any sensitive
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> > > > information leaves via USB drive or e-mail.
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> > > >
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> > > > Does anyone have any whitepapers or info regarding how it actually
> > works
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> > > > or
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> > > > any tactics I should try?
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> > > >
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