best way to run graphical BT4 from a server

[carlos_perez at darkoperator.com (Carlos Perez)]

Why not use Vmware ESXi of the hardware supports it or use Citrix Xen  
Enterprise whichbis also free since a couple of months ago

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On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:55 AM, Dale Stirling <dale at puredistortion.com>  
wrote:

> > I think this has been a bit understated in the current discussion,  
> namely the main
> > advantage of Xen, the paravirtualization. Xen really is a server  
> solution where virtualbox > is a desktop solution.
>
> Yes you could run Backtrack in para virtulisation and you get near  
> bare metal performance, but you will need to find/build a xen-kernel  
> for the DomU that has all of the modules/drivers that back track  
> requires.
>
> I run Xen on RHEL5 and Centos servers at home and in production with  
> paravirtual DomU's with out issue, but these are built from the  
> Centos/RHEL ISO images. The GTK Virtual Machine Manager works really  
> well for building new DomU's
>
> Dale
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Dmitry Nedospasov  
> <russo091 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 28, 2009, at 06:12 , Dale Stirling wrote:
> Xen will work for full virtulisation and run Backtrack (haven't  
> tested).
>
> I think this has been a bit understated in the current discussion,  
> namely the main advantage of Xen, the paravirtualization. Xen really  
> is a server solution where virtualbox is a desktop solution.
>
> What does paravirtualization mean? Well, I run Xen with a not  
> noticeable performance hit on my atom subnotebook (Lenovo S10e),  
> where virtualbox doesn't run nearly as smoothly.
>
> Unfortunately, at least from my experience, Xen also has a much  
> steeper learning curve than virtualbox, which starting with 2.0  
> really is as simple as clicking through some menus. It might help  
> asking around in ##xen on freenode when you're starting, the guys  
> there are extremely helpful.
>
> I think if you have the time its definately worth trying out Xen  
> because its really a great tool, especially since it supports almost  
> all hardware supported by the linux kernel, whereas something like  
> ESXi limits you much more in terms of hardware.
>
>
>
> Xen delivers it Graphical interface over VNC. though you can set up  
> TLS support for these connections.
>
> Although i have used Xen to install an Ubuntu domU in hvm for  
> example, when i moved the hvm to paravirt (since the 9.04 kernel  
> supports it it was as simple as changing hvm to pygrub) it broke vnc.
>
> I ended up just setting up vnc on the domu, accepting connections  
> only from the localhost, and connecting to it over an ssh tunnel,  
> although I'd be curious to here if the guys on the list have a  
> better solution.
>
> This was on Debian Lenny, btw, running the xen-hypervisor and xen  
> linux-image from the debian stable repositories. Its too much of a  
> hassle for me to compile a custom Xen kernel.
>
> Anyway, just my thoughts, hope it was some good food for thought.
>
> D.
>
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