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Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences?
From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 12:52:17 -0400
Unless you specifically configure true "per-packet" on your LAG:
Well, not exactly the same thing. (But it's my mistake, I was referring to L3 balancing, not L2 interface stuff.) load-balance per-packet will cause massive reordering, because it's random spray , caring about nothing except equal loading of the members. It's a last resort option that will cause tons of reordering. (And they call that out quite clearly in docs.) If you don't care about reordering it's great. load-balance adaptive generally did a decent enough job last time I used it much. stateful was hit or miss ; sometimes it tested amazing, other times not so much. But it wasn't a primary requirement so I never dove into why On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 12:04 PM Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:
On 9/6/23 17:27, Tom Beecher wrote:At least on MX, what Juniper calls 'per-packet' is really 'per-flow'.Unless you specifically configure true "per-packet" on your LAG: set interfaces ae2 aggregated-ether-options load-balance per-packet I ran per-packet on a Juniper LAG 10 years ago. It produced 100% perfect traffic distribution. But the reordering was insane, and the applications could not tolerate it. If you applications can tolerate reordering, per-packet is fine. In the public Internet space, it seems we aren't there yet. Mark.
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- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences?, (continued)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Masataka Ohta (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Mark Tinka (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Saku Ytti (Sep 06)
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- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Masataka Ohta (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Benny Lyne Amorsen (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Saku Ytti (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Tom Beecher (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Mark Tinka (Sep 06)
- RE: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Brian Turnbow via NANOG (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Tom Beecher (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Mark Tinka (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? David Bass (Sep 06)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Saku Ytti (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Mark Tinka (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Fred Baker (Sep 08)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Masataka Ohta (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Benny Lyne Amorsen (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Saku Ytti (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Masataka Ohta (Sep 07)
- Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences? Mark Tinka (Sep 07)