Re: Rogers Outage Canada

[Keith Stokes <keiths () salonbiz com>]

As a Rogers data center customer I received this on Saturday:


You have received this bulletin because you are an official contact for your Rogers Data Centres Server Colocation 
service

The nationwide network outage has now been resolved.

Rogers Data Centres is reporting all network and dependent services as operating normally. If you are experiencing any 
ongoing issues please reach out to the Data Centres help desk

An official Incident Report will be shared in 5 to 7 Business days.

We thank you for your patience during the restoration.


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Keith Stokes
SalonBiz, Inc



On Jul 11, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Victor Kuarsingh <victor () jvknet com<mailto:victor () jvknet com>> wrote:

This is the most they can and will say.  For liabilities reasons, specifics are likely not in the cards.  As most 
services ride over common service networks, its quite possible that a network substrate failure can have a number of 
upstream service impacts.  The point here is that the CEO is directly addressing the customer base, which is needed 
here.

regards,

Victor K

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 10:11 AM Shane Ronan <shane () ronan-online com<mailto:shane () ronan-online com>> wrote:
What in depth analysis have you seen? Seems to me, this was a failure in a known maintenance activity, and they simply 
disconnected the devices under maintenance from the network.

Shane

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 5:41 AM Jon Sands <fohdeesha () gmail com<mailto:fohdeesha () gmail com>> wrote:
Given the outage was so bad it was disrupting select E911 services nationwide for something like 24+ hours, it's great 
to see such an in depth analysis and plan of action to prevent such things in the future. bravo rogers

On 7/10/2022 2:55 PM, L F wrote:
fyi - see BOLD.

A Message from Rogers President and CEO



Dear Valued Customer,

As you know, we experienced a service outage across the Rogers, Fido, Chatr and Cityfone wireless networks on Friday.

I am reaching out to share that our services have been restored, and our networks and systems are close to fully 
operational. Our technical teams are continuing to monitor for any remaining intermittent issues. I also want to 
outline an action plan we are putting in place to address what happened.

I want to share what we know about what happened on Friday. We now believe we’ve narrowed the cause to a network system 
failure following a maintenance update in our core network, which caused some of our routers to malfunction. We 
disconnected the specific equipment and redirected traffic, which allowed our network and services to come back online 
over time as we managed traffic volumes returning to normal levels.



On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 9:09 PM L F <liz.fazekas () gmail com<mailto:liz.fazekas () gmail com>> wrote:

Lest we ALL MOVE ON….


Yes he said

“RETARD” =

The delay in processing the current status of a Situation…


Lets move on to bigger n scarier Post mortems:


Was This or Was this NOT

A CYBERATTACK ???

Done.

Lets deal with REAL threats not PC references.

Time to evaluate n re eval Our NTS!!

Veni vidi vici 2022




On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 5:01 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com<mailto:eric.kuhnke () gmail com>> wrote:
Can we have a discussion with the list admins about a list member appending a threat of violence to their outbound 
emails?  Whether serious or not.

Does this person need directions to some local mental healthcare resources?


On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 08:48, Keith Medcalf <kmedcalf () dessus com<mailto:kmedcalf () dessus com>> wrote:

> I can't either, but the reality right now seems to be that 911 calls are
> failing for anyone on a Rogers cellphone.

This is par for the course.  These people chose to deal with Rogers despite knowing the consequences.  It is like if 
you bought a Rogers Snowblower and it did not work.  That would mean that people who bought the Rogers Snowblower will 
not be using it to get rid of the snow that is preventing them from leaving their house.

Mutatis mutandis when Rogers is down things that are Rogers dependent will not work.

Some people are so retarded it is astonishing!

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end in your death.  Consider yourself cautioned and govern your actions appropriately.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+kmedcalf=dessus.com () nanog org<mailto:dessus.com () nanog org>> On Behalf Of
> Eric Kuhnke
> Sent: Friday, 8 July, 2022 13:34
> To: jim deleskie <deleskie () gmail com<mailto:deleskie () gmail com>>
> Cc: NANOG list <nanog () nanog org<mailto:nanog () nanog org>>
> Subject: Re: Rogers Outage Canada
>
>
> I have seen anecdotal reports that the mobile network is in a half broken
> state that phones remain registered to, so a 911 call will attempt and
> then fail.
>
>
> This is unlike what would happen if you had a US/Canada cellphone with
> battery power but no SIM card in it that would search for any available
> network in RF range for a 911 call if needed.
>
>
> On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 12:31, jim deleskie <deleskie () gmail com<mailto:deleskie () gmail com>
> <mailto:deleskie () gmail com<mailto:deleskie () gmail com>> > wrote:
>
>
>       i cant see BGP taking out SS7.
>
>       -jim
>
>       On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:45 PM Snowmobile2004
> <greenjosh6499 () gmail com<mailto:greenjosh6499 () gmail com> <mailto:greenjosh6499 () gmail com<mailto:greenjosh6499 
> () gmail com>> > wrote:
>
>
>               According to Cloudflare Radar
> <https://radar.cloudflare.com/asn/812?date_filter=last_24_hours> , Rogers
> BGP announcements spiked massively to levels 536,777% higher than normal
> (343,601 vs 64 normally) just minutes before the outage. I would not be
> surprised if this happened to be the culprit.
>
>               Regards,
>               Josh Green
>
>               On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:19 PM Andrew Paolucci via NANOG
> <nanog () nanog org<mailto:nanog () nanog org> <mailto:nanog () nanog org<mailto:nanog () nanog org>> > wrote:
>
>
>                       In the early hours of the morning around 2-3am my modem
> got hit with a configuration update that caused a DHCP release that
> wasn't renewed for about two hours, after rollback the connection was
> fine for 3 hours before this network wide outage.
>
>
>                       Maybe a failed night time update was attempted again
> during office hours, I've heard daytime guys are still WFH and night
> shift is in building.
>
>
>                       I expect we'll never get a real explanation. Rogers is
> notorious for withholding any type of helpful or technical information.
>
>
>                       Sent from my inoperable Rogers Mobile via emergency eSIM.
>
>
>                       Regards,
>
>                       Andrew Paolucci
>                       -------- Original Message --------
>                       On Jul. 8, 2022, 1:48 p.m., Jay Hennigan < jay () west net<mailto:jay () west net>
> <mailto:jay () west net<mailto:jay () west net>> > wrote:
>
>
>                               On 7/8/22 07:44, Robert DeVita wrote: > Does anyone
> have information on a widespread Rogers outage in Canada. I > have
> customers with multiple sites down. There's discussion on the Outages
> mailing list. Seems widespread, affecting all services, mobile, voice,
> Internet. No cause or ETR posted yet. -- Jay Hennigan - jay () west net<mailto:jay () west net>
> <mailto:jay () west net<mailto:jay () west net>>  Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503 897-8550 -
> WB6RDV
>
>
>
>               --
>
>               Josh Green.







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Jon Sands
MFI Labs
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