Re: Rogers Outage Canada

[L F <liz.fazekas () gmail com>]

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On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 3:44 PM L F <liz.fazekas () gmail com> wrote:

> FYI --- this is now making email rounds and is available to view and sign
> on CHANGE.ORG
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> On Friday, Rogers experienced its second nationwide outage in as many
> years. Hundreds of thousands of Canadians were unable to access internet
> and cell services for hours, despite paying some of the highest fees in the
> world. Petition starter Celina is calling on the CRTC to protect Canadians
> from exorbitant cell and internet fees and more than 275,000 frustrated
> Canadians have joined her. You can show your support by signing the
> petition now.
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> *Canadians Are Being SCAMMED - Tell the CRTC We Demand Better Cell Phone
> Service!
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> *276,541 have signed* Celina London’s petition. Let’s get to 300,000!
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> CANADIANS ARE BEING SCAMMED!
>
> Here in Canada we pay extremely high prices for our cell phones and cable
> in comparison to countries like Australia, United Kingdom and United States
> of America.
>
> As of August 2019, a plan with 30GB data from Australia’s Vodafone network
> is $45. In Canada, major providers like Rogers and Telus charge $95 for
> 20GB at max speed.
>
> This is unethical and not okay. It’s time we stand up for our hard-earned
> dollars and demand limitations be put in place to stop the wallet gouging
> of hard-working Canadians. We must force our telecommunications companies
> to provide Canadians better service for the astronomically high price
> they’re forced to pay for what is a necessity to function in our high-tech
> society in 2019.
>
> Please act now and sign your name below to show the CRTC (Canadian
> Radio-Television and Telecommunications Commission) that we’ve had ENOUGH
> and demand a change to our current telecommunications laws and regulations
> to implement a limit on price and an immediate increase in service provided
> for both existing and new customers.
>
> Once you’ve signed please take the time to share with your friends and
> family as this affects us all and together we can make a big difference and
> be heard!
>
> Thank you!
>
> Celina London - concerned and annoyed Canadian.
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> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 5:40 AM Jon Sands <fohdeesha () gmail com> wrote:
>
> > Given the outage was so bad it was disrupting select E911 services
> > nationwide for something like 24+ hours, it's great to see such an in depth
> > analysis and plan of action to prevent such things in the future. bravo
> > rogers
> >
> > On 7/10/2022 2:55 PM, L F wrote:
> >
> > fyi - see BOLD.
> >
> > A Message from Rogers President and CEO
> >
> >
> > Dear Valued Customer,
> >
> > As you know, we experienced a service outage across the Rogers, Fido,
> > Chatr and Cityfone wireless networks on Friday.
> >
> > I am reaching out to share that our services have been restored, and our
> > networks and systems are close to fully operational. Our technical teams
> > are continuing to monitor for any remaining intermittent issues. I also
> > want to outline an action plan we are putting in place to address what
> > happened.
> >
> > I want to share what we know about what happened on Friday. We now
> > believe *we’ve narrowed the cause to a network system failure following
> > a maintenance update in our core network, which caused some of our routers
> > to malfunction. We disconnected the specific equipment and redirected
> > traffic,* which allowed our network and services to come back online
> > over time as we managed traffic volumes returning to normal levels.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 9:09 PM L F <liz.fazekas () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> > > Lest we ALL MOVE ON….
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes he said
> > >
> > > “RETARD” =
> > >
> > > The delay in processing the current status of a Situation…
> > >
> > >
> > > Lets move on to bigger n scarier Post mortems:
> > >
> > >
> > > Was This or Was this NOT
> > >
> > > A CYBERATTACK ???
> > >
> > > Done.
> > >
> > > Lets deal with REAL threats not PC references.
> > >
> > > Time to evaluate n re eval Our NTS!!
> > >
> > > Veni vidi vici 2022
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 5:01 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Can we have a discussion with the list admins about a list member
> > > > appending a threat of violence to their outbound emails?  Whether serious
> > > > or not.
> > > >
> > > > Does this person need directions to some local mental healthcare
> > > > resources?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 08:48, Keith Medcalf <kmedcalf () dessus com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > I can't either, but the reality right now seems to be that 911 calls
> > > > > are
> > > > > > failing for anyone on a Rogers cellphone.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is par for the course.  These people chose to deal with Rogers
> > > > > despite knowing the consequences.  It is like if you bought a Rogers
> > > > > Snowblower and it did not work.  That would mean that people who bought the
> > > > > Rogers Snowblower will not be using it to get rid of the snow that is
> > > > > preventing them from leaving their house.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mutatis mutandis when Rogers is down things that are Rogers dependent
> > > > > will not work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some people are so retarded it is astonishing!
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > (CAUTION) You are advised that if you attack my person or property,
> > > > > you will be put down in accordance with the provisions of section 34 & 35
> > > > > of the Criminal Code respectively.  If you are brandishing (or in
> > > > > possession) of a weapon then lethal force will be applied to your person in
> > > > > accordance with the law.  This means that your misadventures may end in
> > > > > your death.  Consider yourself cautioned and govern your actions
> > > > > appropriately.
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+kmedcalf=dessus.com () nanog org> On Behalf
> > > > > Of
> > > > > > Eric Kuhnke
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, 8 July, 2022 13:34
> > > > > > To: jim deleskie <deleskie () gmail com>
> > > > > > Cc: NANOG list <nanog () nanog org>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Rogers Outage Canada
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have seen anecdotal reports that the mobile network is in a half
> > > > > broken
> > > > > > state that phones remain registered to, so a 911 call will attempt and
> > > > > > then fail.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is unlike what would happen if you had a US/Canada cellphone with
> > > > > > battery power but no SIM card in it that would search for any
> > > > > available
> > > > > > network in RF range for a 911 call if needed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 12:31, jim deleskie <deleskie () gmail com
> > > > > > <mailto:deleskie () gmail com> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >       i cant see BGP taking out SS7.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >       -jim
> > > > > >
> > > > > >       On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:45 PM Snowmobile2004
> > > > > > <greenjosh6499 () gmail com <mailto:greenjosh6499 () gmail com> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >               According to Cloudflare Radar
> > > > > > <https://radar.cloudflare.com/asn/812?date_filter=last_24_hours> ,
> > > > > Rogers
> > > > > > BGP announcements spiked massively to levels 536,777% higher than
> > > > > normal
> > > > > > (343,601 vs 64 normally) just minutes before the outage. I would not
> > > > > be
> > > > > > surprised if this happened to be the culprit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >               Regards,
> > > > > >               Josh Green
> > > > > >
> > > > > >               On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:19 PM Andrew Paolucci via
> > > > > NANOG
> > > > > > <nanog () nanog org <mailto:nanog () nanog org> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >                       In the early hours of the morning around 2-3am
> > > > > my modem
> > > > > > got hit with a configuration update that caused a DHCP release that
> > > > > > wasn't renewed for about two hours, after rollback the connection was
> > > > > > fine for 3 hours before this network wide outage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >                       Maybe a failed night time update was attempted
> > > > > again
> > > > > > during office hours, I've heard daytime guys are still WFH and night
> > > > > > shift is in building.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >                       I expect we'll never get a real explanation.
> > > > > Rogers is
> > > > > > notorious for withholding any type of helpful or technical
> > > > > information.
> > > > > >                       Sent from my inoperable Rogers Mobile via
> > > > > emergency eSIM.
> > > > > >                       Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >                       Andrew Paolucci
> > > > > >                       -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > >                       On Jul. 8, 2022, 1:48 p.m., Jay Hennigan <
> > > > > jay () west net
> > > > > > <mailto:jay () west net> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >                               On 7/8/22 07:44, Robert DeVita wrote:
> > > > > > Does anyone
> > > > > > have information on a widespread Rogers outage in Canada. I > have
> > > > > > customers with multiple sites down. There's discussion on the Outages
> > > > > > mailing list. Seems widespread, affecting all services, mobile, voice,
> > > > > > Internet. No cause or ETR posted yet. -- Jay Hennigan - jay () west net
> > > > > > <mailto:jay () west net>  Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503 897-8550
> > > > > -
> > > > > > WB6RDV
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >               --
> > > > > >
> > > > > >               Josh Green.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jon Sands
> > MFI Labshttps://fohdeesha.com/

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