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Re: Rogers Outage Canada


From: Jon Sands <fohdeesha () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 05:40:53 -0400

Given the outage was so bad it was disrupting select E911 services nationwide for something like 24+ hours, it's great to see such an in depth analysis and plan of action to prevent such things in the future. bravo rogers

On 7/10/2022 2:55 PM, L F wrote:
fyi - see BOLD.

A Message from Rogers President and CEO



Dear Valued Customer,

As you know, we experienced a service outage across the Rogers, Fido, Chatr and Cityfone wireless networks on Friday.

I am reaching out to share that our services have been restored, and our networks and systems are close to fully operational. Our technical teams are continuing to monitor for any remaining intermittent issues. I also want to outline an action plan we are putting in place to address what happened.

I want to share what we know about what happened on Friday. We now believe *we’ve narrowed the cause to a network system failure following a maintenance update in our core network, which caused some of our routers to malfunction. We disconnected the specific equipment and redirected traffic,*which allowed our network and services to come back online over time as we managed traffic volumes returning to normal levels.




On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 9:09 PM L F <liz.fazekas () gmail com> wrote:


    Lest we ALL MOVE ON….


    Yes he said

    “RETARD” =

    The delay in processing the current status of a Situation…


    Lets move on to bigger n scarier Post mortems:


    Was This or Was this NOT

    A CYBERATTACK ???

    Done.

    Lets deal with REAL threats not PC references.

    Time to evaluate n re eval Our NTS!!

    Veni vidi vici 2022




    On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 5:01 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>
    wrote:

        Can we have a discussion with the list admins about a list
        member appending a threat of violence to their outbound
        emails?  Whether serious or not.

        Does this person need directions to some local mental
        healthcare resources?


        On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 08:48, Keith Medcalf
        <kmedcalf () dessus com> wrote:


            >I can't either, but the reality right now seems to be
            that 911 calls are
            >failing for anyone on a Rogers cellphone.

            This is par for the course.  These people chose to deal
            with Rogers despite knowing the consequences.  It is like
            if you bought a Rogers Snowblower and it did not work. 
            That would mean that people who bought the Rogers
            Snowblower will not be using it to get rid of the snow
            that is preventing them from leaving their house.

            Mutatis mutandis when Rogers is down things that are
            Rogers dependent will not work.

            Some people are so retarded it is astonishing!

-- (CAUTION) You are advised that if you attack my person or
            property, you will be put down in accordance with the
            provisions of section 34 & 35 of the Criminal Code
            respectively.  If you are brandishing (or in possession)
            of a weapon then lethal force will be applied to your
            person in accordance with the law.  This means that your
            misadventures may end in your death. Consider yourself
            cautioned and govern your actions appropriately.

            >-----Original Message-----
            >From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+kmedcalf=dessus.com () nanog org>
            On Behalf Of
            >Eric Kuhnke
            >Sent: Friday, 8 July, 2022 13:34
            >To: jim deleskie <deleskie () gmail com>
            >Cc: NANOG list <nanog () nanog org>
            >Subject: Re: Rogers Outage Canada
            >
            >
            >I have seen anecdotal reports that the mobile network is
            in a half broken
            >state that phones remain registered to, so a 911 call
            will attempt and
            >then fail.
            >
            >
            >This is unlike what would happen if you had a US/Canada
            cellphone with
            >battery power but no SIM card in it that would search for
            any available
            >network in RF range for a 911 call if needed.
            >
            >
            >On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 12:31, jim deleskie <deleskie () gmail com
            ><mailto:deleskie () gmail com> > wrote:
            >
            >
            >       i cant see BGP taking out SS7.
            >
            >       -jim
            >
            >       On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:45 PM Snowmobile2004
            ><greenjosh6499 () gmail com <mailto:greenjosh6499 () gmail com>
            > wrote:
            >
            >
            >               According to Cloudflare Radar
            ><https://radar.cloudflare.com/asn/812?date_filter=last_24_hours>
            , Rogers
            >BGP announcements spiked massively to levels 536,777%
            higher than normal
            >(343,601 vs 64 normally) just minutes before the outage.
            I would not be
            >surprised if this happened to be the culprit.
            >
            >               Regards,
            >               Josh Green
            >
            >               On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:19 PM Andrew
            Paolucci via NANOG
            ><nanog () nanog org <mailto:nanog () nanog org> > wrote:
            >
            >
            >                       In the early hours of the morning
            around 2-3am my modem
            >got hit with a configuration update that caused a DHCP
            release that
            >wasn't renewed for about two hours, after rollback the
            connection was
            >fine for 3 hours before this network wide outage.
            >
            >
            >                       Maybe a failed night time update
            was attempted again
            >during office hours, I've heard daytime guys are still
            WFH and night
            >shift is in building.
            >
            >
            >                       I expect we'll never get a real
            explanation. Rogers is
            >notorious for withholding any type of helpful or
            technical information.
            >
            >
            >                       Sent from my inoperable Rogers
            Mobile via emergency eSIM.
            >
            >
            >                       Regards,
            >
            >                       Andrew Paolucci
            >                       -------- Original Message --------
            >                       On Jul. 8, 2022, 1:48 p.m., Jay
            Hennigan < jay () west net
            ><mailto:jay () west net> > wrote:
            >
            >
            >                               On 7/8/22 07:44, Robert
            DeVita wrote: > Does anyone
            >have information on a widespread Rogers outage in Canada.
            I > have
            >customers with multiple sites down. There's discussion on
            the Outages
            >mailing list. Seems widespread, affecting all services,
            mobile, voice,
            >Internet. No cause or ETR posted yet. -- Jay Hennigan -
            jay () west net
            ><mailto:jay () west net> Network Engineering - CCIE #7880
            503 897-8550 -
            >WB6RDV
            >
            >
            >
            >               --
            >
            >               Josh Green.






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Jon Sands
MFI Labs
https://fohdeesha.com/

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