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Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public


From: Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 08:24:40 -0800



On Nov 19, 2021, at 07:23 , Dave Taht <dave.taht () gmail com> wrote:

On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 7:00 AM Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:
Since, as you point out, use of the other addresses in 127.0.0.0/8 is not particularly widespread, having a prefix
dedicated to that purpose globally vs. allowing each site that cares to choose their own doesn’t seem like the best
tradeoff.

I would prefer to discuss the other drafts. However, - and this is not
in the 127 draft, and is an opinion not shared with the other authors
-
I have a specific use case for making 127 "more routable", in that
there is nowadays a twisty maze of microservices, bottled up in a
variety of
kubernetes containers, running on top of vms, on top of a hypervisor,
that are often hooked together via rfc1918 addressing and NAT.

Trying to figure out that particular path, from within one of those
containers, can be a PITA. The concept of 127 being local to a
physical host
(and routed internally, rather than natted), where those twisty maze
of services ideally remains within that host, holds some appeal to me.

Couldn’t you do this with 169.254.0.0/16 (or IPv6 GUA or ULA)
just as easily without the need to rewrite virtually every layer of the
stack of miscellaneous software defined networking stuff you just listed?

Owen


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