Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave

[Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>]

CC back to the mailing list for visibility, since I ate the CC list.

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 1:31 PM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:

> Rod-
>
> Please refer to the usage guidelines found here.
> https://nanog.org/resources/usage-guidelines/
>
> 14. Posts that encourage or facilitate an agreement about the following
> > subjects are inappropriate: prices, discounts, or terms or conditions of
> > sale; salaries; benefits, profits, profit margins, or cost data; market
> > shares, sales territories, or markets; allocation of customers or
> > territories; or selection, rejection, or termination of customers or
> > suppliers.
>
>
>  I would tend to agree that while most of your posts to the list are
> within the guidelines, there have been occasions where a reasonable person
> could think you might be skirting the line a bit. In this case :
>
> - Your company works as a broker to procure capacity for others.
> - You sent an email to the list that wording wise would be exactly the
> same as many of us might send to someone they were looking for capacity
> from.
>
> I think most would agree this is pretty clearly against both the usage
> guidelines and the spirit of what this mailing list is about.
>
> I would also like to remind you that this list is administered by the
> NANOG organization. You have no authority to tell others to 'cease and
> desist', and insult someone as 'underemployed' is also not well tolerated
> here.
>
> I have looped in the list admins here. It would probably be a good idea to
> refrain from future messages that are clearly commercial in nature, or that
> contain unnecessary insults.
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 11:28 AM Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>
> wrote:
>
> > Actually, that language was intended to prohibit soliciting business and
> > not asking for help. I have some hard words to describe like Shane Ronan,
> > but I will forbear.
> >
> > I suggest you cease and desist before this gets ugly. Obviously you are
> > underemployed.
> >
> > Get some work to do.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > -R.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* sronan () ronan-online com <sronan () ronan-online com>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:24 PM
> > *To:* Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>; NANOG Operators' Group
> > <nanog () nanog org>
> > *Cc:* Shane Ronan <shane () ronan-online com>
> > *Subject:* Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave
> >
> > Please review the Mailing List policies which specifically prohibit
> > commercial discussions on the list. I would ask the list moderators to
> > chime in here please
> >
> > Shane
> >
> > On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > 
> > People post requests all the time. You are free to block me. And I know
> > the majority of uses disagree with you.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Shane Ronan <shane () ronan-online com>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:11 PM
> > *To:* Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>
> > *Cc:* nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org>
> > *Subject:* Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave
> >
> > NANOG is not a service for receiving details on cable paths for
> > commercial purposes. Please find somewhere else to collect this information.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:54 AM Rod Beck <
> > rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com> wrote:
> >
> > This cable is tapped out and I need a 100 gig wave from Hong Kong to
> > Singapore. 3 year term.
> >
> > Roderick Beck
> > Global Network Capacity Procurement
> >
> > United Cable Company
> > www.unitedcablecompany.com
> > https://unitedcablecompany.com/video/
> > New York City & Budapest
> >
> > rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com
> >
> > Budapest: 36-70-605-5144
> >
> > NJ: 908-452-8183
> >
> >
> >
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