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Re: The Cost of Paid Peering with Chinese ISPs


From: Matt Corallo via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 20:58:17 -0700

If your goal is to force companies the world over to host domestically, where they follow local licensing regimes (yes, 
including censorship, as well as data access), it’s highly effective. Even better, it makes users fail to identify the 
difference between “google is down because it is blocked” and “google is slow, because western websites are always slow 
and too annoying to bother loading”. You also missed my other note that slower links means you don’t have to spend as 
much on GF appliances, cause there’s less traffic to filter!

On Apr 1, 2020, at 20:46, Valdis Klētnieks <valdis.kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:

On Wed, 01 Apr 2020 12:47:22 -0700, Matt Corallo said:

No one suggested it isn’t censorship, you’re bating here. Not deploying
enough international capacity is absolutely a form or censorship deployed to
great avail - if international sites load too slow, you can skimp on GF
appliances!

So.. who was being "censored" when a recent game release caused capacity
problems and slow throughput for others?

Censorship, *by definition*, is content-dependent.  Capacity issues are either
byte-count or packet-count dependent, and don't distinguish between pictures of
huge rubber duckies in Tiananmen square, and pictures of Mount Kilimanjaro.



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