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Re: Muni Fiber and Politics


From: Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 17:30:11 -0400 (EDT)

----- Original Message -----
From: "William Herrin" <bill () herrin us>

On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
I will point out that in my experience, private roads do not tend to
be as well
maintained overall as public roads with some notable exceptions in
very wealthy
gated communities.

Ironically, I've had the opposite experience. The nearby Dulles Toll
Road, Greenway and Beltway HOT lanes are all in much better condition
than all but a few of the rest of the local roads. My buddies out at
http://hoveroad.com/ don't keep the roads in as good shape, but they
are in excellent repair for an organization that maintains 157 miles
of roads on a $1M annual budget. Vastly better than what I've seen a
municipality achieve for the same price.

Stop it, Bill.

Owen didn't say "privately owned *toll road*"; "very wealthy gated 
communities" are even still rarely large enough to need their own
turnpikes.

If you keep setting up straw men, we'll be happy to knock them down for
you, but you'll end up looking a little foolish.

Stop trying to make the arguments fit the end-game, and have the same
conversation the rest of us are, ok?

(And the next assertion you shouldn't make is that I'm saying governments
are perfect, or even better than private corporations *IN GENERAL*; we're
talking about a very specific commons, with a very specific set of 
requirements that are not well served by proprietary profit-making 
corporations.)

Cheers,
-- jra
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