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Re: Regional AS model


From: Michael Hallgren <m.hallgren () free fr>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:17:03 +0100

Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 14:26 -0700, Bill Woodcock a écrit :
On Mar 24, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Mar 24, 2011, at 3:40 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
On Mar 24, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Zaid Ali <zaid () zaidali com> wrote:

I have seen age old discussions on single AS vs multiple AS for backbone and datacenter design. I am particularly 
interested in operational challenges for running AS per region e.g. one AS for US, one EU etc or I have heard 
folks do one AS per DC. I particularly don't see any advantage in doing one AS per region or datacenter since 
most of the reasons I hear is to reduce the iBGP mesh. I generally prefer one AS  and making use of 
confederation. 

If you have good backbone between the locations, then, it's mostly a matter of personal preference. If you have 
discreet autonomous sites that are not connected by internal circuits (not VPNs), then, AS per site is greatly 
preferable.

We disagree.
Single AS worldwide is fine with or without a backbone.
Which is "preferable" is up to you, your situation, and your personal tastes. 


We're with Patrick on this one.  We operate a single AS across seventy-some-odd locations in dozens of countries, 
with very little of what an eyeball operator would call "backbone" between them, and we've never seen any potential 
benefit from splitting them.  I think the management headache alone would be sufficient to make it unattractive to us.

                                -Bill



Right. I think that a single AS is most often quite fine. I think our
problem space is rather about how you organise the routing in your AS.
Flat, route-reflection, confederations? How much policing between 
regions do you feel that you need? In some scenarios, I think 
confederations may be a pretty sound replacement of the multiple-AS
approach. Policing iBGP sessions in a route-reflector topology? Limits?
Thoughts?

Cheers,

mh









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