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Re: Regional AS model


From: Dave Temkin <davet1 () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:13:53 -0400

On 3/27/11 2:53 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Mar 25, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:

Single AS worldwide is fine with or without a backbone.

Only if you want to make use of ugly ugly BGP hacks on your routers, or, you don't care about Site A being
able to hear announcements from Site B.
You are highly confused.

Accepting default is not ugly, especially if you don't even have a backbone connecting your sites.  And even if we could argue 
over default's aesthetic qualities (which, honestly, I don't see how we can), there is no rational person who would consider 
it a hack.

You really should stop trying to correct the error you made in your first post.  Remember the old adage about when you 
find yourself in a hole.

Another thing to note is the people who actually run multiple discrete network nodes posting here all said it was fine 
to use a single AS.  One even said the additional overhead of managing multiple ASes would be more trouble than it is 
worth, and I have to agree with that statement.  Put another way, there is objective, empirical evidence that it works.

In response, you have some nebulous "ugly" comment.  I submit your argument is, at best, lacking sufficient definition 
to be considered useful.

And in reality, is "allowas-in" *that* horrible of a hack? If used properly, I'd say not. In a network where you really are split up regionally with no backbone there's really little downside, especially versus relying on default only.

-Dave


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