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Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?
From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:58:46 -0700
On 09/13/2010 06:28 AM, Rodrick Brown wrote:
Its unrealistic to believe payment for priority access isn't going to happen this model is used for many other outlets today I'm not sure why so many are against it when it comes to net access. Sent from my iPhone 4. On Sep 13, 2010, at 3:22 AM, Hank Nussbacher<hank () efes iucc ac il> wrote:http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/09/paid-prioritized-traffic
This genie has long since escaped the bottle, hasn't it? I remember the voip wars of the late 90's where there was lots and lots and lots of hand wringing about qos... but how much penetration does RSVP have, say? Approximately zero? And that's because, in reality, voice is a tiny fraction of net traffic and all of the visions of RSVP and AAL2 and TCRTP and all of the rest of the crazy things have basically come to naught. Does Skype care about qos? It doesn't even care about RTP. So the new bete noir is video and it's easier to be seduced because the traffic volumes are potentially horrific. But i'll place my money on the bet that by the time any scheme to wring money out of that volume could be implemented, the pipes transporting it will be asking what all the hand wringing is about. Just like voice. The human and technological complications of grafting qos/settlement on top of the net are huge in comparison to stuffing more bits into glass. Mike, brute force and ignorance always wins
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- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?, (continued)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Brian Johnson (Sep 13)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Leo Bicknell (Sep 13)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Mark Smith (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Florian Weimer (Sep 14)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, PrioritizedTraffic? Jamie Bowden (Sep 13)
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- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, PrioritizedTraffic? Brett Frankenberger (Sep 13)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Brian Johnson (Sep 13)
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- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Dave Sparro (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? William Herrin (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 14)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Nathan Eisenberg (Sep 14)
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- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Michael Dillon (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Dave Sparro (Sep 14)