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Re: Spamhaus...


From: Michelle Sullivan <matthew () sorbs net>
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 08:21:51 +0100

Crist Clark wrote:
On 2/18/2010 at 11:47 AM, Michelle Sullivan <matthew () sorbs net> wrote:
        
Crist Clark wrote:
    
We received such a message from a Spamhaus Datafeed reseller
and eventually had our DNS servers blocked. What angered me was
that I analyzed our usage, and we were well below the thresholds
and met the TOS published at the Spamhaus website for no-cost use.
However, they said we had to subscribe to the Datafeed despite
that because we have a Barracuda appliance.
  
      
Well aside from I remember reading that they look for Barracuda
Appliances*, it does say on:
http://www.spamhaus.org/organization/dnsblusage.html 

*Definition: "non-commercial use" is use for any purpose other than as
part or all of a product or service that is resold, or for use of which
a fee is charged. For example, using our DNSBLs in a commercial spam
filtering appliance that is then sold to others requires a data feed,
regardless of use volume. The same is true of commercial spam filtering
software and commercial spam filtering services.
    

We do not fit into that. We are not selling an appliance or service
to others (the 'Cuda is for our internal corporate email only, not
customers). If we were still using my home-built SpamAssassin system,
it'd be OK to use Spamhaus. Now that we've purchased an appliance
and manually added a Spamhaus to the user-customizable DNSBL list
on it, it's not OK?

  

To use a phrase that I use for myself on SORBS...

Their list their rules.  If you don't like the rules, don't use the list.

They've stated you have an appliance and regardless of volume, you are
not 'non commercial' and have to pay a license.  It's their list and
their license, so you cannot fault them for that no matter how much you
disagree with it.

Michelle

Michelle



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