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Re: Spamhaus...


From: Michelle Sullivan <matthew () sorbs net>
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:47:14 +0100

Crist Clark wrote:
We received such a message from a Spamhaus Datafeed reseller
and eventually had our DNS servers blocked. What angered me was
that I analyzed our usage, and we were well below the thresholds
and met the TOS published at the Spamhaus website for no-cost use.
However, they said we had to subscribe to the Datafeed despite
that because we have a Barracuda appliance.
  

Well aside from I remember reading that they look for Barracuda
Appliances*, it does say on:
http://www.spamhaus.org/organization/dnsblusage.html

*Definition: "non-commercial use" is use for any purpose other than as
part or all of a product or service that is resold, or for use of which
a fee is charged. For example, using our DNSBLs in a commercial spam
filtering appliance that is then sold to others requires a data feed,
regardless of use volume. The same is true of commercial spam filtering
software and commercial spam filtering services.

And I want to know how they figured out we had a Barracuda.

  


* well have you considered that the Barracuda may be very specific in
it's IP stack, or they signature it produces in queries etc.  Might have
a very specific open port for administration - and not forgetting that
if it's making queries very directly it's exposing it's IP address and
therefore can be tested very simply.  Many different ways, and I bet I
could find out if I were to have a device to look at.


Michelle



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