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Re: Cogent (was the poetry thread)
From: "Jeffrey Lyon" <jeffrey.lyon () blacklotus net>
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:56:59 -0500
Patrick, I'd contend that using Cogent is a good way to reduce your cost of doing business while maintaining an acceptable level of service, not to necessarily improve reach. If your network absolutely must have the best routes you may be better off adding some other providers regardless. Best regards, Jeff On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick () ianai net> wrote:
On Jan 12, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Martin List-Petersen wrote:Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:On Jan 12, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:Jeffrey Lyon wrote:Mike, Aside from the occasional peering wars i've never had or witnessed any serious issues with Cogent. If you want some redundancy you might also try some other similarly priced providers like WBS Connect, HE, or BtN.(resend due to subject filter) Plus if you had direct connectivity to Cogent, their peering status with others wouldn't affect you anymore. Personally, I've seriously considered this as a reason to get a connection from Cogent.If you are not single-homed, you have no issues reaching Cogent even during a "peering war" - unless Cogent depeers / gets depeered from -both- (all) of your upstreams at the same time. So what value is there to add Cogent?The value is, that Cogent pretty much is the cheapest transit you can get out there vs. paying a premium for carriers that have less clue and more outages.Sorry for being imprecise. I meant that adding Cogent does not significantly improve your reachability. Choosing to buy from Cogent because they depeer / get depeered occasionally is silly, IMHO. To be clear, I am making no comment on Cogent's overall performance. If you find value in adding a provider for other reasons (cost, performance, etc.), I would not argue against it. -- TTFN, patrick
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Current thread:
- RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0, (continued)
- RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Murphy, Jay, DOH (Jan 12)
- RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Aaron Wendel (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Jeffrey Lyon (Jan 12)
- Cogent (was the poetry thread) Seth Mattinen (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent (was the poetry thread) joe mcguckin (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent (was the poetry thread) Seth Mattinen (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent (was the poetry thread) Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent (was the poetry thread) Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent (was the poetry thread) Martin List-Petersen (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent (was the poetry thread) Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent (was the poetry thread) Jeffrey Lyon (Jan 12)
- RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Murphy, Jay, DOH (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Martin List-Petersen (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Seth Mattinen (Jan 12)
- RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0 John van Oppen (Jan 14)
- Re: Cogent Considerations [was: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0] Jim Shankland (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent Considerations [was: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0] Brandon Galbraith (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Jack Bates (Jan 12)