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Re: so, how would you justify giving users security? [was: Re: botted hosts]


From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk () cybernothing org>
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:32:49 -0700


On 04/04/05, Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org> wrote: 

Most people won't care about their "freedom" if they can do whatever 
they want by asking for it. Most users want Web, Mail and IM. Three 
things. How are any of these guys who could easily get their privileges 
(and your responsibilities) back again even going to guess that some big 
right is being taken away? They have complete freedom and x9000 more 
safety. They can even sign a paper stating exactly that.

So, costs savings on bandwidth and support. Less net abuse. Ouch - less 
demand on AV sales? Run the numbers people.

        Problem is, this conversation is mostly taking place amongst
        geeks -- and most of us geeks /do/ want open access.  So the gut
        reaction is "oh shit, I won't be able to run my personal mail
        server at home anymore!" even though the consumers of consumer-
        grade services don't know how to do that, and don't care.

-- 
J.D. Falk                                          uncertainty is only a virtue
<jdfalk () cybernothing org>                    when you don't know the answer yet


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