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Re: verio arrogance
From: Stephen Griffin <stephen.griffin () rcn com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:34:03 -0400 (EDT)
In the referenced message, Ralph Doncaster said:
That said, their current policy of refusing to accept de-aggregated prefixes from peers (while accepting such from paying customers) makes perfect sense, IMHO. Not arrogant, just a smart & reasonable business decision.I have one downstream ISP customer that explicitly asked for "full BGP routes" to be written into the contract. Why Verio's customer's wouldn't want full routes makes no business sense to me. However a NANOG list subscriber was kind enough to help me get past Verio's NOC monkeys and get their filters updated to allow my announcements. -Ralph
Accepting any route from anyone doesn't make much business sense to me. At least if you are interested in a quality network. If you'ld like, I'm sure multiple ISPs would be happy to send you all of their /32s. Verio's policy seems like a very responsible way to run a network. I'm saddened that more folks don't do filtering based upon RiR policy. Not announcing your largest aggregates is just plain stupid. If your peers are willing to accept more-specifics tagged no-export, with MEDs, then go for it, but the rest of us don't need them. I'm a little disappointed in Verio, if they really did decide to accept your unneccessarily deaggregated prefixes.
Current thread:
- RE: verio arrogance, (continued)
- RE: verio arrogance Daniel Golding (Jul 18)
- Re: verio arrogance up (Jul 15)
- Re: verio arrogance Austin Schutz (Jul 17)
- Re: verio arrogance Brian Wallingford (Jul 17)
- china telecom noc contact ? Anthony Pardini (Jul 17)
- Re: china telecom noc contact ? German Martinez (Jul 17)
- Re: verio arrogance Kurt Erik Lindqvist (Jul 18)
- Re: verio arrogance Peter E. Fry (Jul 18)
- Re: verio arrogance Ralph Doncaster (Jul 18)
- Re: verio arrogance Mark Kent (Jul 18)
- Re: verio arrogance Stephen Griffin (Jul 26)
- Re: verio arrogance Ralph Doncaster (Jul 26)
- Re: verio arrogance Stephen Griffin (Jul 26)
- Re: verio arrogance Ralph Doncaster (Jul 26)
- RE: verio arrogance Phil Rosenthal (Jul 26)
- RE: verio arrogance Ralph Doncaster (Jul 27)
- solving problems instead of beating heads on walls [was: something about arrogance] Joe Provo (Jul 27)
- Re: solving problems instead of beating heads on walls [was: something about arrogance] Ralph Doncaster (Jul 27)
- Re: solving problems instead of beating heads on walls [was: something about arrogance] Andy Dills (Jul 27)
- Re: solving problems instead of beating heads on walls [was: something about arrogance] Ralph Doncaster (Jul 27)
- Re: solving problems instead of beating heads on walls [was: something about arrogance] Andy Dills (Jul 27)
- Re: verio arrogance Austin Schutz (Jul 17)