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RE: ISPs as content-police or method-police
From: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer () mhsc com>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:03:36 -0800
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu] Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:34 PM On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:16:00 PST, Roeland Meyer <rmeyer () mhsc com> said:We have enough problems from DOS attacks originating from the script kiddies, we don't need DOS attacks from our upstreams (uncontracted/unrequested port filtering).The two are inversely related.
How? Denial of service because of script-kiddie activity is indistinguishable from denial of service because the transit provider is arbitrarily blocking those ports, or has firewalled my systems "for my own good", without my permission. DoS is DoS.
Current thread:
- RE: ISPs as content-police or method-police Christian Kuhtz (Nov 20)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: ISPs as content-police or method-police Roeland Meyer (Nov 20)
- Re: ISPs as content-police or method-police Adrian Chadd (Nov 20)
- RE: ISPs as content-police or method-police Roeland Meyer (Nov 20)
- Re: ISPs as content-police or method-police Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 20)
- Re: ISPs as content-police or method-police Shawn McMahon (Nov 20)
- RE: ISPs as content-police or method-police Roeland Meyer (Nov 20)
- RE: ISPs as content-police or method-police Roeland Meyer (Nov 20)
- "...the IPv4 TOS field should be end-to-end...." JIM FLEMING (Nov 20)
- Re: "...the IPv4 TOS field should be end-to-end...." Bora Akyol (Nov 20)
- Re: "...the IPv4 TOS field should be end-to-end...." Joe Abley (Nov 21)
- RE: ISPs as content-police or method-police Jason Slagle (Nov 21)
- Re: ISPs as content-police or method-police Stephen Sprunk (Nov 21)
- "...the IPv4 TOS field should be end-to-end...." JIM FLEMING (Nov 20)
- RE: ISPs as content-police or method-police Hank Nussbacher (Nov 20)
- Re: ISPs as content-police or method-police JIM FLEMING (Nov 20)
- Re: ISPs as content-police or method-police Joe Abley (Nov 21)
- Re: ISPs as content-police or method-police JIM FLEMING (Nov 20)
- RE: ISPs as content-police or method-police Roeland Meyer (Nov 21)
(Thread continues...)