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Re: different thinking on exchanging traffic


From: "Damian O'Gorman" <damian () cyberdude com>
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 09:03:29 -0400

Who is currently exchanging traffic there ?

Damian

Michael Gibson wrote:

CANIX is a co-operative peering point for National Canadian Traffic.

Currently, they are seven national ISPs exchanging traffic at that point.

Mike Gibson - Netcom Canada
-----Original Message-----
From: Damian O'Gorman <damian () cyberdude com>
To: Sean Donelan <SEAN () SDG DRA COM>
Cc: nanog () merit edu <nanog () merit edu>
Date: 5/26/1998 17:31
Subject: Re: different thinking on exchanging traffic

Of course, not every local ISP participates.  The state subsidized
education network doesn't connect, nor do some the dialup ISPs.  But
it gets a reasonable level of support from several of the larger
area providers.


The same type of project was attemted in Toronto. CANIX was essentially set
upto cross connect traffic rather than having to traverse the entire US
network to get
to the other side of Toronto. The problem was, it became an exclusive
bilateral peering
arrangemt with 6 players. That was 1 1/2 years ago. Currently only 2 are
peered. What in fact was the point. UUnet and Sprint were the big players
up
here and nobody appears to want to cooperate.

But exchange points are one of those weird creatures.  If I'm paying
a big expensive backbone, why would I get anything from a local exchange
point?  And of course, the ever popular "What's the catch?"  Since
local exchange points are generally run on a non-profit basis, that
means there isn't a large marketing organization, or a huge gaggle of
salespeople trying to sell it.  If you like, we can call it a "managed
connection" and charge you $1,000/month.  But that seems steep for
essentially a port on a catalyst switch.



Damian O'Gorman







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