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Re: different thinking on exchanging traffic


From: Bob Aiken <aiken () er doe gov>
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 10:01:08 -0400


Tim

Actually - the idea of the NAPs (as defined in 1992) was an evolutionary
idea from the FIXs. MAE-East was the 1st prototype NAP.  But even during
the discussion of NAPS in 1991 (NEXs then, From  P Ford and HWB) and 1992 -
I remember discussions at the same time for layer 2 peering points by Tony
Hain, Geoff Huston and others with regards to the east and west fixes.
Yes, this idea has been around for a very long time.

bob




At 10:41 PM 5/26/98 -0500, you wrote:
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 22:02:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: Tim Salo <salo () networkcs com>
To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: different thinking on exchanging traffic
     [...]
I believe that all four of the winning NSFNET NAP submissions proposed
nationwide "NAPs".  I believe that the reason they didn't happen is that
the NSF asked for and assumed it would get four geographically-focused
solutions.  I suspect that the notion of awarding four NAPs, all of which
covered all of the country, provided the NSF a certain amount of heartburn.
I believe that the nationwide NAP concept died, (or was killed), at the
time for administrative, not technical, reasons.  But, this is all
speculation on my part...
     [...]

A presumably well informed observer sent me private e-mail that questioned
my account.

I read only one of the winning NAP proposals, the one I worked on.  My
speculation that all of the winning proposals talked about nationwide
NAPs was based on conversations after the fact, including with authors
of competing proposals.  So, I believe that all of those who submitted
winning NAP proposals were thinking about nationwide NAPs, but some may
not have, based on the e-mail I received, included those thoughts in 
their proposals.

At any rate, my thesis is that the concept of a nationwide layer-two
solution has been around for several years, at least since the time that
the NAP proposals were written.  I might add, however, that we are
collectively still learning about how best to make use of these very
large layer-two services.

-tjs



Robert J. Aiken  (Bob),   Network Research Mgr,  US DOE / ER-31
aiken () er doe gov, 301-903-9960, 301-903-7774 (fax)
Nec Temere, Nec Timide  -  "Neither Rashly or timidly"



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