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Re: NSP ... New Information


From: Larry Vaden <vaden () texoma net>
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 14:08:51 -0500

At 01:55 PM 6/9/97 -0500, Jeremy Porter wrote:

In message <3.0.1.32.19970608231642.00d49e1c () texoma net>, Larry Vaden writes:
At 10:54 PM 6/8/97 -0500, Jeremy Porter wrote:
This means that you should use renumbering technology as much as
possible, so that when you can justify a /19 you can get one,
until then, find an ISP that is multi-homes and can provide you
the IP addresses you need, and consider two connections to them,
giving you the benefit of being multi-homed without the cost of
the routers needed for full BGP, or needing to justify a /19.

A quick question:

What is the immediate utilization rate required for an ISP's first /19?

Please provide a basis in RFC2050 et al relevant documents for your answer.

The /19 is required to be utilized in 6 months, as part of slow start.
(Under Internic guidelines, under ARIN this could be changed.)
Check out www.arin.net, www.ripe.net, and www.apnic.net for the
indivdual registries polices.

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Jeremy Porter, Freeside Communications, Inc.      jerry () fc net
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Jeremy, that's the way I read it also, but Kim Hubbard of InterNIC says an
ISP applying for their first /19 must show 100% immediate utilization of a
/19 to obtain one from InterNIC.  I don't see the part of RFC2050 which
supports Kim's interpretation, especially for a currently multi-homed ISP.
Do you or others?  

Dr. Jon Postel has also been silent in regard to pointing out the authority
for the 100% immediate utilization rate.

Thanks,

Larry Vaden, founder and CEO               help-desk 903-813-4500
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