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more on sorry Congress may try retain airliner "scissors" ban
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 06:45:40 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: Joe McGuckin <joe () via net> Date: December 2, 2005 10:12:52 PM EST To: dave () farber net, ip () v2 listbox comSubject: Re: [IP] more on sorry Congress may try retain airliner "scissors" ban
(For IP) This is getting ridiculous.First the justification was to prevent hijackers from taking control of the
plane. Fine - that seems like a reasonable ideal.Now that the cockpit doors have been strengthened - and more importantly - a
sterile cockpit rule is enforced and the pilots will not cooperate withhijackers, these silly rules about not allowing nail clippers (but allowing
knitting needles) on board can be done away with.Only now, the flight attendants are complaining that relaxing the "sharp
pointy item" rule would put them at risk. The truth is that these rules didn't make anyone safer, they just inconvenienced millions of travelers.Even with the current regulations in place, a person could cause mayhem on a flight. A BIC pen jammed into an eye would kill you just as dead as if your throat had been cut with a box cutter. A sharpened credit card is just as effective as a knife. A length of wire or heavy monofilament fishing line
concealed in a jacket lining makes a garrote. A sharpened belt buckle... The list of weapons is limited only by your imagination.Unless you want to make the passengers board in the nude and then shackle
them to their seats with arm restraints, you cannot get the risk level anywhere near zero. Even if you did that, there's still a risk that planes could be brought down.If someone can be motivated to put on a vest lined with explosives and blow themselves up, then why can't another person be with the same level of zeal be convinced to give up a lung and kidney and have it replaced with plastic
explosive. None of the most up-to-date technology would be effective indetecting this type of threat. Backscatter x-rays, dog teams, air puffers or even trace sampling would be ineffective. Nothing short of full body x-rays
would detect this. Dave, I think you're absolutely correct: the TSA is pursuing the correctpolicy of focusing on realistic threat scenarios and deemphasizing the very unlikely possibility of hoards of terrorists trying to overtake a plane with
nail clippers and pliers.Even though planes can still be blown up, the era of using an airliner as a
weapon is pretty much over. Joe ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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