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Re: no poison for Joplin
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 12:36:10 -0400
On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:54:15 +0300, Gadi Evron said:
That is simply factually untrue, and while your deserved respect for how long you've been dealing with spammers is something you have, it does not reflect as an expertise on criminal psychology. Saying all spammers, especially today with the huge criminal enterprises, as psychopaths simply is impossible. There just aren't that many of psychopaths around.
Which part of "psychopaths come in varying degrees, and there's enough of the mild ones to fill every prison in the US" did you fail to understand? There are very few mental disorders that are a hard binary "yes/no" - almost all of them come in a spectrum. Mental retardation comes in various severities. Some are unable to learn to even crawl/move, some never manage to learn to dress themselves, and some manage to lead fairly normal lives even if it always takes them 3 times longer to figure something out. Autism comes in a wide spectrum from "socially awkward geek" to "totally nonverbal". Depression, ADHD, and schizophrenia come in a wide range of severity as well. As do sociopaths. And I'll posit that *especially* in the "huge criminal enterprise" end of it, you need to be at least a good ways down the sociopath spectrum to consider the line of work. Yes, there's a lot of small fry spammers in developing countries that are doing it because they need to eat, and I'm sure a few spammers in the US *really* only did it to pay for their kid's kidney transplant. But when you get to RBN-class operations, it's sociopaths all the way down.
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