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Re: Hello. I live in Salem, and I believe in witches.


From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:50:10 +0100 (BST)

On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 chris () blask org wrote:

--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:

What's a "birther"?

'Cor luv a duck!  (my mastery of the language isn't good, excuse me if
this is one of those times when I am supposed to say "Yoicks!")

No, that's exactly the right expression, although it's not used much these 
days. A more up-to-date phrase would be "Fuck me!".
 
A Birther is someone who believes that the US president was secretly
born in Kenya (a country that did not exist at the date of his birth),
and that a conspiracy involving his parents, the state of Hawaii and
local Hawaiian newspapers was started before he was born to disguise
that fact.  Birthers with lower lead content in their blood claim that
he cannot be President because - like past Republican President Chester
A Arthur - both of his parents were not American citizens at birth.

OK, thanks. And I heard somewhere that America, land of equality and 
opportunity, doesn't allow someone born outside the US to become 
president.
 
This is not to be confused with a "Deather", though by and large they
are the same folks.  Deathers believe that the effort to reform the US
healthcare system is a veiled effort to euthanize the elderly of

Ah, that's the "death panels" thing, OK.

America, reasoning (not to stretch the meaning of the word) that - as
happens in such socialist hell-holes as the UK, Sweden and Canada - once
The Guvernment is given complete and unquestioned control of healthcare
they will choose to deny medicine to old people.  I believe the theory
is that this will endear the ruling party with the younger voters who
will then inherit Grandpa's old slippers.
 
Every person dies (so far), and every doctor has to make a decision at 
some point that the pain and inconvenience inflicted by healthcare is no 
longer going to make a net benefit to the sufferer. We had an aunt with 
cancer. She was 93, and the doctors decided that an operation might help 
the cancer problem, but would leave her with an operation recovery 
problem, and that anyway she'd probably die from other causes before the 
cancer killed her. I guess they have to make decisions like that all the 
time.

In addition, every healthcare treatment has a cost, and funds are not 
infinite, so care has to be allocated somehow (although it you have money, 
you can pay for it yourself). 

And it's certainly true that old people are more likely to die than young 
people.

How you must love the current American system whereby everybody gets as
much healthcare as they want to buy.

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