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RE: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again
From: Andy Sutton <newslists () pessimists net>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:18:51 -0500
On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 14:54 +1200, Nick FitzGerald wrote:
You've clearly never worked real, susttained abuse rporting...
The problem isn't with the Whois information, which is a poor way to identify a domain owner - and always will be for obvious reasons. The issue is that netblock owners and domain registrars don't have adequate processes (or any real incentives) to handle abuse complaints. This isn't about pinning down a website to Susy Brown, but about cleaning up the 'net. Identity has little to do with it unless you are actually LE. However, they have additional tools in their toolbox to deal with this issue. Sub-LE is a do what you can, and forward to LE what you can't do, proposition for very good reasons. I get the privacy aspects, and I do think they are a real concern in today's era of tracking everything under the sun. (If that makes me part of the tin-foil club, so be it.) However there are alternatives that do not require expensive, time consuming, and ultimately futile Identity verification and re-certification processes to be put in place. Relying on some unattainable method of ensuring 100% positive identity is a total distraction from abuse handling. -- - Andy The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority. - Ralph W. Sockman _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- Re: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again, (continued)
- Re: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Paul Ferguson (Aug 22)
- RE: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Larry Seltzer (Aug 22)
- RE: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Nick FitzGerald (Aug 22)
- Re: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again der Mouse (Aug 22)
- Re: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Dude VanWinkle (Aug 23)
- RE: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Larry Seltzer (Aug 22)
- RE: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Paul Ferguson (Aug 22)
- Re: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again der Mouse (Aug 22)
- Re: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Dude VanWinkle (Aug 23)
- RE: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Larry Seltzer (Aug 22)
- RE: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Nick FitzGerald (Aug 22)
- RE: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Andy Sutton (Aug 23)
- RE: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Nick FitzGerald (Aug 23)
- RE: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Andy Sutton (Aug 24)
- RE: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Larry Seltzer (Aug 24)
- Re: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Brian Loe (Aug 24)
- RE: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Larry Seltzer (Aug 24)
- Re: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Brian Loe (Aug 24)
- Re: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again der Mouse (Aug 22)
- RE: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Nick FitzGerald (Aug 26)
- Re: WHOIS Privacy Stalemate... Again Paul Ferguson (Aug 22)