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Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID?


From: "Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 11:21:40 -0500

On 5/23/07, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2007 11:00:00 CDT, Brian Loe said:

Yeah, wait until he buys a car with your SSN and drives it back to
Mexico before paying it off. I'd rather explain things to the IRS than
a debt collector any day...seriously.

I wasn't aware that "illegal aliens" were a major player in the "identity
theft" arena.  Got any reputable statistics to back that up?


Just because it was offered to me as an argument off-list, I'll share
with you the following:
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:YnR2EMUph6sJ:www.consumer.gov/idtheft/pdf/gao-d02830t.pdf+identity+theft+illegal+aliens&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

I'm sure there are many things neither of us are aware of but watching
the news on an occasional basis would have garnered you this knowledge
at least. I've used this "car bought with your credit taken to Mexico"
example on a couple of occasions now. Its not just one possibility I
came up with on my own but is based on a real life story of some poor
bastard in Minnesota (or something like that) who recently discovered
he was living a dual credit life in Arizona (or something like that).
When he caught on to it, and went to the authorities, his credit twin
went back to Mexico - leaving him, naturally, with the bill(s). Its
not just a possibility, it happens.

Your SSN and mother's maiden name is so entrenched in the "security"
of our financial institutions that it practically invites fraud.
Illegal aliens, having NO legal way of getting the things they "need"
while in this country (new car, house, etc.) are virtually forced to
commit such crimes. On the other hand, if they entered the country
legally all of the options we take for granted would also be offered
to them and we would have the added benefit of knowing who they are,
where they are and that they're not convicted felons in Mexico coming
here to continue their criminal ways. I don't blame the illegals so
much as I do our government. One of the government's most legitimate
purposes is to protect our borders yet they fail miserably at doing
it, at all levels of government, from local PDs to ICE.
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