Re: [privacy] Want a beer at the pub? Have your prints taken

[Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>]

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, sprite wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006, Gordon Darling wrote:
>
> > <snip>
> >
> > Beer fingerprints to go UK-wide
> > Yeovil, an example for us all
> > By Mark Ballard
> > Published Friday 20th October 2006 17:45 GMT
> >
> > The government is is funding the roll out of fingerprint security at the
> > doors of pubs and clubs in major English cities.
> >
> > Funding is being offered to councils that want to have their pubs keep a
> > regional black list of known trouble makers. The fingerprint network
> > installed in February by South Somerset District Council in Yeovil
> > drinking holesy is being used as the show case.
> >  
> > "The Home Office have looked at our system and are looking at trials in
> > other towns including Coventry, Hull & Sheffield," said Julia Bradburn,
> > principal licensing manager at South Somerset District
> > Council.............
> > <snip>
> >
> >
> > more at http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/20/pub_fingerprints/
>
> Will the no-pub list turn ot to be another no-fly list?
> What other implications would this have?
>
> If this were to happen in the US, that info would be used by insurance 
> companies to drop your credit rating, raise your car insurance and all 
> other kind of insurance rates (since they now evaluate more than driving 
> safety and prompt bill paying as criteria for how much they can charge for 
> insurance)
> Then what else would they use it for? "Sorry, you are on the No-pub list, 
> you can't come into our restaurant/store/church/etc"
> Also, what chances that people who want to cause you problems can set you 
> up to be seen as a problem user?
>
> So many new personal invasions were put in place to 'prevent terrorism', 
> but look at how far they are straying from their initial claim to need all 
> this information.
>
> Once this kind of thing gets established someplace, it just propagates.
> I'm still boggled about Disney requiring people to use fingerprint 
> scanners around the Disneyworld park.
> http://www.local6.com/news/4724689/detail.html
 
This has nothing to do with terrorists.

Pubs are run by private individuals, and in the UK, have the nature of a 
social environment. The person running the pub has every right to ban 
arseholes.

If someone has demonstrated his arseholehood in one pub, other publicans 
have every right to ban that person.

Arseholehood is demonstrated by arsehole behaviour. Publicans don't want 
to ban paying customers and lose revenue, so arseholehood isn't conferred 
lightly. But when one person's behaviour ruins the evening of a whole 
bunch of people, the publican faces losing the whole bunch of people if he 
doesn't do something about the arsehole.

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