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Re: [privacy] Want a beer at the pub? Have your prints taken


From: Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:56:06 -0500 (CDT)

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006, Drsolly wrote:
Will the no-pub list turn ot to be another no-fly list?
What other implications would this have?

If this were to happen in the US, that info would be used by insurance 
companies to drop your credit rating, raise your car insurance and all 
other kind of insurance rates (since they now evaluate more than driving 
safety and prompt bill paying as criteria for how much they can charge for 
insurance)
Then what else would they use it for? "Sorry, you are on the No-pub list, 
you can't come into our restaurant/store/church/etc"
Also, what chances that people who want to cause you problems can set you 
up to be seen as a problem user?

So many new personal invasions were put in place to 'prevent terrorism', 
but look at how far they are straying from their initial claim to need all 
this information.

Once this kind of thing gets established someplace, it just propagates.
I'm still boggled about Disney requiring people to use fingerprint 
scanners around the Disneyworld park.
http://www.local6.com/news/4724689/detail.html
 
This has nothing to do with terrorists.

Pubs are run by private individuals, and in the UK, have the nature of a 
social environment. The person running the pub has every right to ban 
arseholes.

If someone has demonstrated his arseholehood in one pub, other publicans 
have every right to ban that person.

Arseholehood is demonstrated by arsehole behaviour. Publicans don't want 
to ban paying customers and lose revenue, so arseholehood isn't conferred 
lightly. But when one person's behaviour ruins the evening of a whole 
bunch of people, the publican faces losing the whole bunch of people if he 
doesn't do something about the arsehole.

Look at it as a blacklist for assholes, used by pubs at their
discretion. :P

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