RE: FW: Windows Live and Privacy

["Richard M. Smith" <rms () computerbytesman com>]

I understand the difference.  However, Brian Loe made the point in his
original message that we are "free" to take photos in public.  He wasn't
only making a legal argument.  Our actions are controlled not just by laws,
but also by social convention.  Clearly there are many settings where taking
photos are not allowed by these social conventions.  But also people are
arrested for taking photos when they are asked to stop, but the charges are
indirect:  disorderly conduct, trespassing, etc.    

Richard 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dude VanWinkle [mailto:dudevanwinkle () gmail com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:38 AM
To: Richard M. Smith
Cc: funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: Re: [funsec] FW: Windows Live and Privacy

> Pretty clearly, we are not "free" to take all photos in public places 
> in the U.S. and we never have been.  Nowadays the restrictions have 
> just been tighten in the name of security.

What people tell you can do and what you are legally allowed to do are two
separate things.

Try not to confuse them

-JP



On 12/5/06, Richard M. Smith <rms () computerbytesman com> wrote:
> I tried taking the Wynn photo from the sidewalk along Las Vegas Blvd. 
> and got yelled at by a rent-a-cop.  The rent-a-cop clearly was out of 
> line, but was probably acting on orders from above.

> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Seltzer [mailto:Larry () larryseltzer com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:22 AM
> To: Richard M. Smith; funsec () linuxbox org
> Subject: RE: [funsec] FW: Windows Live and Privacy
>
> > > ...Over the past few years, I've been yelled at for taking a photo 
> > > of
> a sign inside of an airport about the U.S. Visit program, a 
> surveillance camera at a Starbucks, and the Wynn Casino in Las Vegas 
> while it was under construction...
>
> The Starbucks and (probably) the casino examples are different than, 
> for example, the airport ones. It's nothing new that stores don't want 
> you taking pictures of their insides, and ironically it's also about 
> IP protection, specifically "trade dress." I heard of people getting 
> in trouble for this 20 years ago.
>
> Larry Seltzer
> eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
> http://security.eweek.com/
> http://blog.eweek.com/blogs/larry%5Fseltzer/
> Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
> larryseltzer () ziffdavis com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts.
> https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec
> Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.

_______________________________________________
Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts.
https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec
Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.