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Re: [privacy] US vs EU
From: "David Harley" <david.a.harley () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:12:55 +0100
With respect: * this isn't necessarily about litigation, and "privacy advocates" are not the only dissident voices in Europe, or even the UK. * it's perfectly possible for UK citizens or groups to take legal action against government departments. It happens all the time. It isn't successful all the time, of course. ;-) It's true that there are multiple exceptions in pro-privacy legislation to accommodate the "national interest", but that doesn't mean such activities can't be challenged. I assume no US agency ever pleads "national interest" then? ;-)
Why not question their own country about why they're letting them?
We do. But many of us don't see any reason why liberties taken by our government justify liberties taken by yours. :)
While I doubt if the British privacy advocates can sue to get their own ministry of intelligence to stop snooping (like our infamous EFF vs AT&T/ACLU vs NSA/ETC vs ETC) suit) on them,
I don't know why you assume that. I'm not even sure why you'd assume it would be unsuccessful. I might, but I don't have much faith in anyone's version of democracy...
They can't sue their own country, according to you,
I'm not sure how you sue a country...
but somehow they're going to sue a foreign country? Where has that ever worked?
Whether it works is not always the point. :) -- David Harley Security Author & Consultant Small Blue-Green World dharley () smallblue-greenworld co uk _______________________________________________ privacy mailing list privacy () whitestar linuxbox org http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/privacy
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- Re: [privacy] US vs EU, (continued)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Dude VanWinkle (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Brian Loe (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Dude VanWinkle (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Drsolly (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU David Harley (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Brian Loe (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Dude VanWinkle (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Brian Loe (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Dude VanWinkle (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU David Harley (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Dude VanWinkle (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU David Harley (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Brian Loe (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Dude VanWinkle (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Brian Loe (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Randy Abrams (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Drsolly (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU David Harley (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Brian Loe (Aug 28)