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Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone
From: "Henderson, Dennis K." <Dennis.Henderson () umb com>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:40:23 -0500
In a rhetorical sense (the war on drugs, the war on poverty), then I can see it. But in the sense of armed conflict? I'm very much reminded by the war between Eurasia (them) and Oceania (us) with the personification of the enemy in Goldstein (bin Laden). This war will, of course last for ever (I refer to Orwell's war, of course, or do I?) and is used to justify ever-increasing suppression of the people of Oceania (and Airstrip One in particular). Korea - now that was a war, even though we called it a "police action". What we're in now, is a police action, even though it's being called a "war", a fine example of newspeak.
Please help me understand how you can see that the "war on drugs" is a war and not the "war on terrorism". Neither term is an official declaration of war against a sovereign entity. Very summarized: One is series of actions against an entity that makes money by selling chemicals that are illegal in the United States. The actions that invade our privacy when fighting this are: Wiretapping Call Record Processing AntiMoneyLaundering Activities Bank Secrecy Act Surveillance and comm interception other "necessary things" The other is a series of actions against an entity that would like to see every last infidel wiped off the face of the planet. The actions that invade our privacy when fighting this are: Wiretapping Call Record Processing Anti Money Laundering Activities Bank Secrecy Act Surveillance and comm interception other "necessary things" Dennis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. Thank you. ============================================================================== _______________________________________________ privacy mailing list privacy () whitestar linuxbox org http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/privacy
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- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone Drsolly (Jun 12)
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