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Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research...
From: Curt <tuigim () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:30:17 -0400
I notice that you didn't mention any rare disease that none of your friends or relatives have. Why is it that all of these "altruistic" people seem to never give a crap until it happens to them? Did Michael J Fox give one thin dime to Parkinsons until he had it? How about Christopher Reeves and spinal injury/stem cell? I'd much rather make my money, and donate to non-profit orgs that do things that I am interested in. --Curt On 9/21/07, Kristian Erik Hermansen <kristian.hermansen () gmail com> wrote:
Some interesting discussion came up on some security lists this week and it got me to thinking. Yes, hacking software is lame. Cool, so you found some vulnerabilities in some widely distributed application, service, or OS and it is patched just as quickly. Why don't we spend our time and valuable energy researching cures for rare or popular diseases instead? For instance, my brother (Jon Hermansen) has a very rare disease called Langerhans Cell Histiocytosis. It is also better known as LCH. It can be identified as causing such further diseases as Diabetes Insipidus, which is also uncommon (not sugar diabetes). Have you heard of these diseases before? Let me educate you… General Information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langerhans_cell_histiocytosis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_insipidus Seven Part Video Series: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KkBRqZS8nfM http://youtube.com/watch?v=w1h6ZjxF-To http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ojbJpERlt8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dzUqdYofMCQ http://youtube.com/watch?v=lNhzwNYhi0M http://youtube.com/watch?v=nY9DDEhShcE http://youtube.com/watch?v=5_8SEYyEZGI And even worse than this, a friend of mine who is a PhD student in Math at Berkeley has an even rarer disease known as Gaucher's Disease. This costs $550,000 / year to treat. That's a hefty bill every year (you make that much doing security vulns?), and some insurance companies might refuse to accept you due to "pre-existing" conditions. So guess what, my friend does not have health insurance and has not been treated for two years. A genius might die. That's ludicrous. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaucher's_disease http://youtube.com/watch?v=0nX6QM5iVaU If we consider ourselves decent "hackers", why don't we put our efforts toward helping cure this and other diseases rather than some very simple programming vulnerability? Is it because then we would have to reinvent a whole new slew of tools and re-orient/re-educate ourselves to be successful? Think about it… -- Kristian Erik Hermansen _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com http://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... M. Shirk (Sep 21)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Simon Smith (Sep 21)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Joel R. Helgeson (Sep 23)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- trymedical research... gjgowey (Sep 23)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- trymedical research... scott (Sep 23)
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- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Simon Smith (Sep 21)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... M. Shirk (Sep 21)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Kristian Erik Hermansen (Sep 21)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Jimby Sharp (Sep 22)
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