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Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research...
From: Simon Smith <simon () snosoft com>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:18:02 -0400
Just like technology research (hacking)... but... if you are the one that finds a cure, you'll make your buck too. M. Shirk wrote:
There is more money to be made in the treatment of a disease, then actually finding a cure. Remind you of anything? Shirkdog ' or 1=1-- http://www.shirkdog.usDate: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:37:20 -0700 From: kristian.hermansen () gmail com To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk; dailydave () lists immunitysec com Subject: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Some interesting discussion came up on some security lists this week and it got me to thinking. Yes, hacking software is lame. Cool, so you found some vulnerabilities in some widely distributed application, service, or OS and it is patched just as quickly. Why don't we spend our time and valuable energy researching cures for rare or popular diseases instead? For instance, my brother (Jon Hermansen) has a very rare disease called Langerhans Cell Histiocytosis. It is also better known as LCH. It can be identified as causing such further diseases as Diabetes Insipidus, which is also uncommon (not sugar diabetes). Have you heard of these diseases before? Let me educate you… General Information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langerhans_cell_histiocytosis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_insipidus Seven Part Video Series: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KkBRqZS8nfM http://youtube.com/watch?v=w1h6ZjxF-To http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ojbJpERlt8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dzUqdYofMCQ http://youtube.com/watch?v=lNhzwNYhi0M http://youtube.com/watch?v=nY9DDEhShcE http://youtube.com/watch?v=5_8SEYyEZGI And even worse than this, a friend of mine who is a PhD student in Math at Berkeley has an even rarer disease known as Gaucher's Disease. This costs $550,000 / year to treat. That's a hefty bill every year (you make that much doing security vulns?), and some insurance companies might refuse to accept you due to "pre-existing" conditions. So guess what, my friend does not have health insurance and has not been treated for two years. A genius might die. That's ludicrous. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaucher's_disease http://youtube.com/watch?v=0nX6QM5iVaU If we consider ourselves decent "hackers", why don't we put our efforts toward helping cure this and other diseases rather than some very simple programming vulnerability? Is it because then we would have to reinvent a whole new slew of tools and re-orient/re-educate ourselves to be successful? Think about it… -- Kristian Erik Hermansen _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com http://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave------------------------------------------------------------------------ More photos; more messages; more whatever – Get MORE with Windows Live™ Hotmail®. NOW with 5GB storage. Get more! <http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_5G_0907> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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Current thread:
- Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Kristian Erik Hermansen (Sep 21)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... M. Shirk (Sep 21)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Simon Smith (Sep 21)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Joel R. Helgeson (Sep 23)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- trymedical research... gjgowey (Sep 23)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- trymedical research... scott (Sep 23)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- trymedical research... J.M. Seitz (Sep 23)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- trymedical research... scott (Sep 23)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Simon Smith (Sep 21)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... M. Shirk (Sep 21)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Kristian Erik Hermansen (Sep 21)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Jimby Sharp (Sep 22)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Kristian Erik Hermansen (Sep 22)