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Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd)
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 22:30:28 -0500
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 03:07:29 GMT, senator.crabgrass () comcast net said:
This is very nice, but obviously you were not standing in the dust of the WTC Sept 11. I don't care if we NUKE them, let alone hurting a few feelings state side.
If we give up our liberties so we can be defended from terrorists, then the terrorists will already have won.
You are from Missouri so Show me the proof that any citizens' rights were violated other than the liberal press stirring the soup again, or please keep your political paranoia to yourself.
You obviously missed this: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/18/politics/18bush.html?ei=5094&en=5b0fa310edb6186f&hp=&ex=1134882000&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print WASHINGTON, Dec. 17 - President Bush acknowledged on Saturday that he had ordered the National Security Agency to conduct an electronic eavesdropping program in the United States without first obtaining warrants, and said he would continue the highly classified program because it was "a vital tool in our war against the terrorists." or this: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper' By DOUG THOMPSON Dec 9, 2005, 07:53 Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act. Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal. GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court. "I don't give a goddamn," Bush retorted. "I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way." "Mr. President," one aide in the meeting said. "There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution." "Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!" --- But no, other than that, there's no indication that the government has any intention of violating anybody's civil rights.
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