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RE: morning_wood is really a blackhat


From: "Jimmy" <myemailaccount () fastmail fm>
Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 16:15:24 +0200

Or even:

"To the human, ethics and laws have holes, just like anything else."

If ethics and laws were without holes then they would be static, never
changing, and never debated about imo. Everybody will have their own
interpretation on them, biased by their own opinion.



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[mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] Namens Ray P
Verzonden: Saturday, May 01, 2004 15:21
Aan: full-disclosure () lists netsys com
Onderwerp: Re: [Full-Disclosure] morning_wood is really a blackhat

You also could have written:

"To the lawyer, ethics and laws have holes, just like anything else."

instead of

"To the hacker, ethics and laws have holes, just like anything else."

Ray

From: "Willem Koenings" <isec () europe com>
To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] morning_wood is really a blackhat
Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 06:13:47 -0500


----- Original Message -----
From: Slotto Corleone
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:45:39 -0800
To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com
Subject: [Full-disclosure] morning_wood is really a blackhat

But who isn't? :)

Recently i read the book "Stealing the Network - How to Own the Box"
Something from there:

"It's strange how hackers' minds work.You might think that white hat
hackers would be on one end of the spectrum and black hat hackers on the
other. On the contrary, they are both at the same end of the spectrum, with
the rest of the world on the other end.There really is no difference 
between
responsible hacking and evil hacking. Either way, it's hacking.The only 
dif-ference
is the content. Perhaps that's why it's so natural for a black hat to go
white, and why it's so easy for a white hat to go black.The line between 
the
two is fine, mostly defined by ethics and law. To the hacker, ethics and 
laws
have holes, just like anything else."

W.
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