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Re: Recent Attacks
From: "Philip J. Koenig" <pjklist () ekahuna com>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:37:07 -0800
On 18 Feb 00, at 20:35, Ryan Russell boldly uttered:
However, say it was discovered that the attackers were using ISS's Internet Scanner. Let's say the feds get away with nailing him with 1.2B or more in damages. Wouldn't that leave a nice path open for suits against Mixter and ISS? Wouldn't 10% of the damages (or a little less) be a reasonable amount to nail them with? Especially ISS who actually has the money? Be careful about advocating huge amounts of damages, especially if you work in the security industry. There are a lot of scary laws up for vote right now, and not a lot of sympathy for anyone who wants to use the title "hacker" for anything. Ryan
I agree that there is a very slippery slope here, and potentially bad precedent ready to get set by lots of clueless politicians trying to make impressive noise. (Case in point: ridiculous "anti-spam" bill now under consideration which is more like a pro-spam proposal) The US govt wants to have the ability to remotely snoop home computers whenever they want to (whatever happened to innocent before proven guilty), use your cell phone as a tracking device, and at every turn tries to mandate encryption back-doors and all manner of such things. Sooner or later "crying wolf" when it comes to stuff like the recent DDoS disruptions may end up having a not altogether positive effect in the long run. Phil
Current thread:
- Re: Recent Attacks, (continued)
- Re: Recent Attacks Ge' Weijers (Feb 19)
- Re: Recent Attacks Malcolm Holser (Feb 17)
- Re: Recent Attacks Brad Van Orden (Feb 17)
- Re: Recent Attacks Philip J. Koenig (Feb 17)
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- Re: Recent Attacks David LeBlanc (Feb 17)
- Re: Recent Attacks Philip J. Koenig (Feb 17)
- Re: Recent Attacks Ryan Russell (Feb 19)
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- Re: Recent Attacks David LeBlanc (Feb 19)
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- Re: Recent Attacks David LeBlanc (Feb 19)
- Re: Recent Attacks Ryan Russell (Feb 19)
- Re: Recent Attacks Philip J. Koenig (Feb 23)
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- Re: Recent Attacks Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 19)
- Re: Recent Attacks Darren Reed (Feb 20)
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- Re: Recent Attacks Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 20)
- Re: Recent Attacks Ryan Russell (Feb 21)
- Re: Recent Attacks Ryan Russell (Feb 23)
- Re: Recent Attacks Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 20)
- RE: Recent Attacks Chris Crozier (Feb 21)
- Re: Recent Attacks Claudio Telmon (Feb 24)
- Re: Recent Attacks Ryan Russell (Feb 21)
- Re: Recent Attacks Darren Reed (Feb 21)