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Re: Recent Attacks
From: Ryan Russell <ryan () securityfocus com>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:26:36 -0800 (PST)
On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, Marcus J. Ranum wrote:
Because then if I want to write a tool, I have to take on the responsibility of serial numbering, licensing, probably some sort of insurance, etc.. which means I can't do it for free anymore, can't release source...That's right. That's a good thing. A bunch of bad apples have spoiled that barrel. Life's like that.
While you may be quite correct in that it's too late, I can't see why its a good thing.
It's going to squash the little guys.They asked for it. Poor little crybaby cybercriminals.
It would be ok if they were all criminals. I might as well stop after this, we're just going around in circles. If you outlaw TFN (or heck, require Mixter to add copy protection and charge $500 for it) then you do the same for L0phtcrack, and all the other tools I've mentioned. Are the L0pht guys over here in the bad guy's corner with Mixter and I? If I'm still a black hat.. I'll still have L0phtcrack. I could still have TFN. I can go through any legitimate channel and get the tool I want. All you've done now is essentially pay lawyers. That, and you've sent us back to trading underground so now NFR doesn't get a copy to play with to develop fingerprints for. Ryan
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- Re: Recent Attacks Ryan Russell (Feb 23)
- Re: Recent Attacks Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 20)
- RE: Recent Attacks Chris Crozier (Feb 21)
- Re: Recent Attacks Claudio Telmon (Feb 24)
- Re: Recent Attacks Ryan Russell (Feb 21)
- Re: Recent Attacks Darren Reed (Feb 21)
- Re: Recent Attacks Michael Cassidy (Feb 23)
- Re: Recent Attacks Paul D. Robertson (Feb 21)
- Re: Recent Attacks Darren Reed (Feb 21)
- Re: Recent Attacks Paul D. Robertson (Feb 21)