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Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security
From: "Steven Osman" <sosman () terratron com>
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:02:29 -0500
Reid, Your statement is assuming that a hacker will use his designated IP address to perform the hacking. That's like saying "well, if we get hacked over a dialup connection, we'll just trace the call and then there is no question about who to blame!" The more seasoned hacker will do something to cover his tracks before stepping out into the world. Why not start by scanning what IPs are available, starting from your subnet, to see which can make it out onto the internet, and THEN start wreaking havoc? You may find unallocated IPs, and you may find someone's IP who has powered down his equipment. Steven Osman Terratron Technologies Inc. ----- Original Message ----- From: REID FOX <reidfox () direct ca> To: Michael Kelly <michaelkelley () home com>; Eric Toll <etoll () syracusesupply com> Cc: <firewall-wizards () nfr net>; <Neil.Ratzlaff () ucop edu> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 3:05 PM Subject: Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security
I would think that anyone connected to a public network would have some thoughts about security. If not they will find out very quickly. its the same old adage "we never used to lock the doors" . I think there are also some advantages to a cable network "speed for one" also having a regular IP Im sure has its positive merits. I know I would gladly give up my 28.8 dial up and take my chances with cable. Remember if you log a hackers IP and they are on cable there is no question about who had that IP at the time. So I think these cable lans will bring on a new wave of firewalls and security software for the home and small business users. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Kelly <michaelkelley () home com> To: Eric Toll <etoll () syracusesupply com> Cc: firewall-wizards () nfr net <firewall-wizards () nfr net>; Neil.Ratzlaff () ucop edu <Neil.Ratzlaff () ucop edu> Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 9:39 PM Subject: Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem securityEric Toll wrote:The sad part is that even if they have file and print sharing turnedoff, you can still be hacked and or hijacked, cable modem networks arenot distributed star, but more like a bus network ( think of it like a river ) and anyone can get a sniffer and "drink" packets and look for >"password"
or
capture 40bit encryped https sessions, save them and >crack them later to reveal credit card numbers etc.I agree with you about this. The problem I had with the article was the way it was presented. "Underlying Computer Code" and all that. The amount of information presented to advise people on how to secure thier computers was almost non-existent.Do you guys think we have kiddie scripters reading this stuff? I'd
hate
to think so.I'd bet on it. But on the other hand, if they are just script kiddies, they haven't got a clue as to what anyone is talking about.
Current thread:
- Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Rodney van den Oever (Nov 01)
- Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Wozz (Nov 01)
- Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Michael Cassidy (Nov 02)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Rodney van den Oever (Nov 01)
- RE: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Keller Dennis (DDSP) (Nov 01)
- Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Joseph S D Yao (Nov 01)
- RE: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Michael Cassidy (Nov 02)
- Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Steven Osman (Nov 01)
- Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Wozz (Nov 01)
- Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security REID FOX (Nov 01)
- Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Joseph S D Yao (Nov 02)
- Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Robert Graham (Nov 01)
- RE: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Robert Graham (Nov 01)
- RE: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Russ (Nov 02)
- Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Saso (Nov 05)
- Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Steven Osman (Nov 08)
- Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Holger Heimann (Nov 09)
- Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Saso (Nov 05)
- RE: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security David Lang (Nov 05)
- Re: Newspaper Article about Cable Modem security Wozz (Nov 01)