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Re: Password Management Policy & Standards


From: "Jones, Mark B" <Mark.B.Jones () UTH TMC EDU>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 23:09:03 +0000

What happens when they cannot stand in front of you? When a professor is
in
Tibet on a semester long study and needs their password reset and they
don't
have their US cell number (true story)?
[Mark] Have them set the password recovery info when their accounts are
activated or update the info while they know their password and can prove
who they are by authenticating.  Then when in Tibet they need only control
one of the alternate forms of communication that you have on record for
them.

 Or an incoming freshman calls from
China before school starts ?
[Mark] Collect the alternate contact info as part of the
application/acceptance process.


Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager
Austin College

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Jones, Mark B
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 2:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Password Management Policy & Standards

I'm not a fan of security questions under any circumstances.

But I think this is all much more simple than people try to make it.

Refer to the 'remote' column of "Table 3 - Identity Proofing Requirements
by
Assurance Level" in NIST SP 800-63
(https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-

3A__nvlpubs.nist.gov_nistpubs_SpecialPublications_NIST.SP.800-2D63-2D2.pdf-
29-
3A&d=BQIFAg&c=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ&r=jgM
u8DNgV_dycz0rYwkNbEQq36F0BI5_Zpblz7C5LhM&m=CHu_qUaaUu4tEieisl0wx
1OQti8C6qPtOjKkd3f_SvY&s=D__Wc6ElajWxVFFPudtp1377qr8N61TbNKTEgFGa
uoI&e=
Issue "credentials in a manner that confirms the ability of the Applicant
to
receive telephone communications or text message at phone number or e-mail
address associated with the Applicant in records."

Collect a personal phone number and/or email address when the person is
standing in front of you (or some other appropriate, trusted time), then
call it
or send it a one-time secret that allows the user to reset their password.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Carter
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 1:34 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Password Management Policy & Standards

I hope this isn't off topic, but how does password self-service work
with
these
policies and standards? With the proliferation of social media, it's
very
difficult
to come up with truly secure security questions. For an alternate
email
the
ownership of that off-campus address is unverifiable.

There is also the question of requests to the help desk for password
resets. In
person we ask for identification, but over-the-phone resets have the
same "secure question" issue that the self-service reset has. Asking
for DOB or address is way too easy to impersonate. How are you
verifying account ownership?

These are some of the practical matters with passwords we are
struggling
with.
A super secure password with good policies are no help if a little
social engineering can get account access the "proper" way.

Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager
Austin College

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